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Appropedia working page helpers etc[edit]

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Page Discussions I've contributed to[edit]

Discussion tracking

Changes to community discussions & key policy pages
Contributions by PatSunter to:
User talk pages
Article talk pages
Category talk pages
Appropedia talk pages

Recent active users[edit]

30 days of edits

Backing up key pages[edit]

I'd like to back up some key pages I've made contributions towards offline. User:Chriswaterguy reckons it can be done ... now need to figure out how.

Pat, not sure if it helps at all, but I've seen various software (such as zim) that runs a 'wiki' on a desktop computer. It might then be possible to just export the pages you want and then view them on a pc for backing-up purposes. I'm not sure how well this works, but it might do what you want it to do. Joeturner 03:32, 21 May 2013 (PDT)

Ah, thanks Joe. Well, I actually find the Book functionality really cool - it could be useful for others rather than me I imagine. I did find that on the page of the saved book there is an "Open in Book Creator" button which is useful as well. --PatSunter 03:38, 21 May 2013 (PDT)

Links to useful discussions at Village Pump and others re Appropedia history, missions, plans[edit]


Hi Pat, good to have you here. Hope you have a good experience here and find Appropedia useful, personally and for your transport project, and we look forward to learning from you.

Let me know if you have questions or feedback or need any help. --Chriswaterguy 16:52, 8 October 2012 (PDT)


Hi PatSunter,

Welcome to the Appropedia wiki! If you need a general wiki-tutorial, see the main help page (or the more in-depth one on WikiEducator).

Check your preferences. It's a good idea to verify your email address and turn on email notification - then you'll be notified when you get a message on your talk page, or when any page on your watchlist, is modified. You may want to upload a photo or information about yourself to your userpage (which is at User:PatSunter).

If you have a particular interest or project in mind, go ahead and start it! If you have questions or suggestions, the best place to leave them is at our community discussion page, which we call the Village pump - you should get a fast response. Or, feel free to leave me a note on my talk page if you have further questions, need help finding your way around, have a cool idea for a project, or just want to chat. If you just want to know how things work here, check out Appropedia:Policies and Appropedia:FAQ. We're a relaxed and friendly bunch though, and you can also just pick things up as you go.

Glad to have you here!



Hi Pat,

Thanks for your great contributions here. I agree with your sentiment at Sustainable transport. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist you. --Lonny 01:50, 14 November 2012 (PST)

Thinking about Appropedia and a Cities Portal[edit]

I guess this is a 2-part post and suggestion for response:

  • (A) An initial proposal for "Cities" or an equivalent (e.g. Sustainable Cities) to be in the left sidebar of "Areas" on the Appropedia site.
  • (B) An effort to clarify the hierarchy of pages in that area that already exist.

Starting with (A) ... I think the case for this is the much-quoted statistic that in the last couple of years demographers think that > 50% of the global population would be urbanised (

I realise a focus on Cities is a fair way from much of the historic focus of the Appropriate Technology movement on rural communities. But I suggest given the above, a holistic approach to Appropriate Development and Sustainability globally should take cities as one of the major starting points and focus areas. Note, I'm not suggesting Appropedia should be Pro cities - in fact I agree that in many cases putting effort to improving the quality of life & sustainability of rural and village residents is important to slow urbanisation and support traditional cultures etc. BUT cities will continue existing, and in both the developed & developing world there's pressing needs for more sustainable & appropriate approaches to provision of life's needs & goals in urban regions.

I see there is already "Construction" in the list, but I think "Cities" as a category would emphasise more holistic integration of this with some other categories - e.g. transport, social life, community planning approaches in more urban settlements.

Which brings me to (B), relevant pages.

I notice that currently redirects to the "Built environment" page, which also has its own category.

Then there is the high-level page "Sustainable cities", which also has a Category, and "Sustainable city living", which doesn't have a category but has a (nicely done) Portal page.

I think its worthwhile clarifying the relationship between these pages and possibly re-factoring ... e.g. perhaps a new Cities top-level Portal and category, closely linked to the Sustainable cities page.

Does anyone have any opinions/views on all of this?

I guess one of my rationales is not just a wish to organised current info better, but make it more appealing for other people worldwide working on sustainable cities / urban design to get involved, if the landscape of pages better matches how people are educated in urban planning & urban design schools.

--PatSunter 00:59, 21 May 2013 (PDT)

Links to interesting pages about Appropedia's role, future directions, etc[edit]

I made some comments recently on Appropedia:Strategic planning/Strategic plan 2013-2014, see the talk page.

Links to nice example pages/categories of using Appropedia in a university course (Service Learning)[edit]

Table of New Pages, Users etc[edit]

(Copied from proposed Appropedia:Contributors' homepage).

Newest Articlesmore Newest Talk pagesmore Newest User Pagesmore Newest Categoriesmore
  1. Global Day of Action on Military Spending
  2. Earth Hour!
  3. Ribes divaricatum
  4. My Personal Review on this Semester
  6. Learning Experience as a Senior High in E tech
  7. Semester Life
  8. E-Tech: An overall
  9. A roller coaster ride
  11. Empowerment Technology by Jannah Pacana
  13. Learning Experience During 2nd Semester
  15. E-Tech Reflection
  16. World Water Day
  17. International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination
  18. Pesticide Action Week
  19. International Day of Happiness
  20. Empowerment Technologies: A Stepping Stone to Unexpected Maturity of 11th Graders
  1. Talk:Converting 2D images to 3D for printing using open source software
  2. Talk:Solarpunk
  3. Talk:Snow PV Literature Review
  4. Talk:Flowmeter
  5. Talk:Six Rivers High School human sundial
  6. Talk:Six Rivers Charter School outdoor common area
Newest Category talk pagesmore
  1. Category talk:Bicycles
  2. Category talk:Fertilizers
Newest Appropedia talk pagesmore
  1. Appropedia talk:Translation and licenses
  2. Appropedia talk:Executive Director
Newest User talk pagesmore
  1. User talk:Chihiro Lopena
  2. User talk:Carmela Leann T. Suson
  1. User:SG-11 Review Tab
  2. User:Ring Ease Review01
  3. User:Noah Skr
  4. User:Edel456
  5. User:Paulgwapa322
  6. User:Jannah Pacana
  7. User:Angelgiannepal
  8. User:Rebekahthereze
  9. User:ZheniellyPaclibar
  10. User:Frans567
  11. User:Janjan123
  12. User:Briansky
  13. User:The Red Comet
  14. User:Artsaaa
  15. User:Vanessa Andaya
  16. User:Aprildiaceno
  17. User:Ughbii
  18. User:FunkyFrog
  19. User:RalphTe
  20. User:Ahya Salaga
  1. Category:OSHUP
  2. Category:UPOSH
  3. Category:Free stuff
  4. Category:Rio de Janeiro
  5. Category:5490-19
  6. Category:US news
  7. Category:New York City
  8. Category:Community involvement UK
  9. Category:Six Rivers Charter School
  10. Category:MOST completed projects and publications/Gallery2019
  11. Category:CASwiki UK events
  12. Category:CASWiki topic news by place
  13. Category:CASwiki UK topic news
  14. Category:Appropedia administrators
  15. Category:UK places
  16. Category:CASwiki events
  17. Category:Feminist Appropedians
  18. Category:Appropedia rollbackers
  19. Category:Appropedians in the United Kingdom
  20. Category:Appropedians

TODO: document proposed 'public transport informatics' initiative?[edit]

To keep track of discussions with User:Aaron and others on this? --PatSunter (talk) 23:22, 14 March 2014 (PDT)

re Hi and Open CO2 project[edit]

Hi Pat, thanks very much for making contact, the links to some of your articles and expression of interest in Open CO2 type stuff. I'm currently ploughing through getting SCA location type pages ported (nearly got halfway, but still over 150 to go!) but will eventually get onto some SCA topic articles which will include some on transport and I'll be sure to let you know as and when I do. Thanks again for saying Hi and best wishes for all your brilliant transport related work. Philralph (talk) 02:00, 15 March 2014 (PDT)