Pre & Post Diabetes CURE history (Click to enlarge)

Diabetes is considered a syndrome rather than a disease by modern medicine. It remains a companion to the grave - once diabetic always diabetic is the order of the day. Due to different reasons the Beta cells of Pancreas get impaired and adversely affects the quality or quantity or both of Insulin being produced in the body - partially in case of Type 2 & totally in case of Type 1 Diabetes. Due to the insufficiency or inefficiency of insulin produced by pancreas, blood sugar levels go up degrading strength & health of human body by starving all cells. Damaging vulnerable organs like Kidney & Heart makes diabetes fatal; whereas impairment of Retina of eye, cerebral haemorrhage/stroke, gangrene of foot/lower-leg etc make rest of life miserable.

Diabetes is seen to be progressive, degenerative & incurable. This is because the cause (impairment of pancreas) is never treated; only its effect (blood sugar increase) is looked into and taken care of.

The author hence left the beaten track when he was diagnosed diabetic & took a drastically different approach instead, based on the enlightenment imparted by an Aayurveeda exponent and his own exposure. He designed a diet based on Long Wheat Mash as the staple part & a life style appropriate to a diabetic. Within weeks of the special regimen, FBS & PPBS came down steadily & settled at normal values. But it took still longer for the HbA1c to descend to normal range. Then he confirmed cure by OGTT, and reconfirmed it with a repeat OGTT at another NABL, ISO & ACHSI certified lab. He further assured the cure by a serum insulin test also.

In order to ensure that the illness or syndrome has not returned by switching back to normal diet, he gets FBS & PPBS tested every month and HbA1c quarterly from 2009 onwards.

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Breaking news[edit | edit source]

Is this an attempt to snatch the creatorship of Long Wheat from MOTHER NATURE?


Efficacy of Long Wheat (LW) in Diabetes Control[edit | edit source]

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Scientific evidence corroborating Georgedappilly's claim (2009) on hypoglycemic efficacy ofLong Wheat had been lying dormant for one and a half decades in a Scientific Paper [2]. Unfortunately the conclusion of the paper was in the negative on hypoglycemic effect of LW. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise for Georgedappilly. A staunch opponent of Long Wheat Mash Diet Regimen LWMDR dug out the 14 year old study paper. I followed the link & at the very first glance itself noticed the positive fact contained in the included data (TAble II of the paper) [2]. This is a panacea for Diabetics but a dust in the eye for some others!

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The point that authors left unnoticed in the paper & caught my attention as very important is: the increase in blood sugar that happened due to the experimental diet in two fortnights was reverted by the next one fortnight in the case of Group I (who used Dicoccum whole Wheat flour) but not so in the case of Group II (who used Bread Wheat flour)!!!

This study also indicates that even LW flour in the form of unleavened bread works (not only mash!) in regulating the Blood Sugar of Diabetes patients.

The referred paper is certainly a great encouragement to all those who are on LWMDR as well as those who are contemplating on trying LWMDR.

Usual life-cycle of the dreaded disease named Diabetes as understood by me

Most persons think & propagate that Diabetes is a syndrome and not a disease; hence incurable. I totally disagree with both. Diabetes is also considered to be caused by the impairment of Pancreas (to be more precise, of Beta-cells which produce the hormone Insulin). From the time of reading about Insulin resistance (IR) I beg to differ with the Pancreas-BetaCell theory also.

Insulin Resistance, one of the triggers and sustainers of Diabetes[edit | edit source]

Insulin is a hormone produced by the beta cells of gland Pancreas. Initially it is attached to C-peptide as "Siamese twins" and gets detached on maturing in blood. Half life period of endogenous Insulin is estimated to be 5 minutes (whereas that of C-peptide is 30 min). It is Insulin that helps Glucose molecules enter cells from Blood easily and normslise the Blood Glucose level.

When the quantum of Glucose is more than what is needed to meet the immediate energy requirements, the excess quantity is stored as Glycogen in Liver and further as fat at other parts of the body.

When the storage spaces overflow, cells find it difficult to receive Glucose at the prevailing rate and signal the Insulin receptors to reduce their sensitivity. This is known as Insulin resistance (IR).

IR in turn reduces Glucose (G) absorption/removal from Blood (B). In my opinion this phenomenon is Diabetes. This leads to increased BG levels and a host of subsequent problems generally known as Diabetic complications.

Misinterpreting the increased levels of BG (alias Blood Sugar - BS) being caused by shortage of Insulin, body intelligence signals Pancreas to enhance production. This may give a temporary relief but leads to higher levels of Insulin & Glucose in Blood as the IR still prevails.

Increased BS levels lead to further increase in IR! Aaaaand the vicious circle continue obviously till......

Misunderstanding the increased levels of BG/BS being caused by shortage of Insulin, patients are advised and resorts to:

A. physical exercises,

B. oral therapies to whip Pancreas for producing more Insulin,

C. inject extraneous Insulin,

etcetera in order to force cells to absorb more Glucose from Blood.

Being unaware of IR and due to taste and enjoyment considerations, patients continue to take sweet/starch in improper quantities. This in turn cause further hardships to cells. This leads to further increase of IR to face the enhanced challenge. This further worsens the situation and pushes the BS level to still higher values! Subsequently we enhance the therapy level. This vicious circle continues till the "unstable phase" alias "Brittle Diabetes" emerge!!

Four cases compared to show role of IR in trigger & sustenance of DM[edit | edit source]

Parameter Case1 Me

Diab cured

Case2 IFG Relative Case3 Wife of an acquaintant Case4 Friend on Insulin inj Case5 Friend's sonSurApn on exercise only Case6 Boban Relative Remarks
Date 03Aug2016 26Sep2016 11Nov2016 ..Dec2014 30Jan2021 FebMar2022
FBS* 95 109 218 150 114 127 * mg/dL
PPBS mg/dL 86 79 190.7** 200* 116 170(ND/Calc) * Average **eAG (A1C)
HbA1c % 5.0 ND 8.1 9+ 6.30 6.7 ND=Not Done
FSI micro U/mL 5.41 11.2 15.6 200+ 40.12 6.83 Range 2.6 - 24.9
TriG mg/dL 54 156 91.4 143 169 131 <150
HDL mg/dL 59 63 75 49 32 42 > 40
IR(1) 1.269 3.014 8.39 74 11.29 FSI×FBS÷405 <=1.0
IR(2) 0.915 2.476 1.218 2.918 5.28 TriG÷HDL range <=2.0
Insulin Inj Nil Nil ? 30-0-30 Nil Nil
Tab1 Nil Nil ? Glucobay (50) 1-1-1 Nil Nil
Tab2 Nil Nil ? Galvus met (50/1000)☆ 1-0-1 Nil Nil ☆>Vildagliptin 50 + Metformin 1000
Tab3 Nil Nil ? Nil Nil Nil

Analysis[edit | edit source]

My FBS is less than 100 with fasting Serum Insulin (FSI) only 5.41. My relative has FBS more than 100 even with FSI 11.2; more than double of mine. This is a conspicuous exhibition of IR & Insulin being more in Blood even at beginning of Diabetes! She is only at impaired fasting Glucose (IFG) stage, not full blown diabetic according to modern medicine standards!

Wife of my acqaintant has FBS 218, more than both the cases mentioned above even with FSI 15.6; which is almost 300% of mine and 150% of the second case. This again exhibit the role of IR on Diabetes & even excess Insulin being unable to hold Blood Sugar at normal levels! She is on Diabetic medication as well!

My friend had FSI 200+ with three Insulin shots daily; third dose decided based on Supper PPBS! In spite of all the "exercises" he has FBS around 150!!

Fasting Blood Sugar (FBS) of case1 is the least of the four, in spite of the fasting serum Insulin (FSI) being the lowest!!!

Comments are welcome.

Effect of Diabetes on subsystems &/or components of human body[edit | edit source]

PRIMARY: (usually go unnoticed)

  1. Blood sugar level exceeding upper limits (FBS >100 mg/dl, PPBS>140 mg/dl)
  2. HbA1C increasing (normal range: 4.2% - 5.7%)
  3. Cells being deprived of Oxygen & Glucose; getting filled with Carbon dioxide. (Glucose deprivation by Insulin Resistance and others by Glycosylated Haemoglobin alias HbA1c)

SECONDARY: (obvious & leads to detection)

  1. Frequent urination, persisting &/or unclenched thirst & repeating hunger.
  2. Quick & unexplainable weight loss.
  3. Persistent tire & fatigue unresolved even by food intakes and rest.
  4. Possible misunderstanding among young couples sometimes leading to family breakdown due to diabetic sexual dysfunction

TERTIARY: (affecting quality of life & confidence)

  1. Numbness in lower parts of legs (ankles & feet).
    CLICK TO ENLARGE PICTURE Leg of a prolonged Diabetes patient
  2. Even minor skin injuries developing to prolonged wounds.
  3. Loss of sensation. (Even ant-bites on wounds being not sensed.)
  4. Liver enlargement & associated/subsequent problems

FIERCE FINALE: Diabetic neuropathy sometimes culminating in:-

  1. Diabetic neuropathy gangrene of legs – leading to amputations.
  2. Diabetic retinopathy – irreversible loss of sight.
  3. Diabetic nephropathy – irreparable kidney damage.
  4. Diabetic brain hemorrhage (Stroke)– lifelong total or partial paralysis.
  5. Atherosclerotic Heart Disease (Silent Angina) – the FINAL event.

The beaten track of Diabetes management[edit | edit source]

Stage 1: Starts with exercise & diet control (quantity restriction & Glycemic Index based food swapping).

Stage 2: Progress to low dose medication usually ½ Tab once daily in addition to stage 1 practices.

Stage 3: Advance to higher doses of Tabs + Stage 1 practices.

Stage 4: Switch to stronger Tabs in Stage 3 practices.

Stage 5: Progress further to INSULIN injection (initially once daily, then twice, thrice & finally with every meal) in addition to Stage 1 practices.

Stage 6: Then combination of a few of the above.

Stage 7: Combination (union) of all the above (diet control, exercise, tabs & insulin injections).

Stage 8: Penultimate, the UNSTABLE phase where prescribed dose of medicines pulls to hypoglycemia & reduced dose shoots the blood sugar up! (this topples the peace of mind as well as courage). This phase is known as Brittle Diabetes among medical professionals.

Stage 9: Finally the BREAKDOWN phase when the patient gives up all restrictions on diet and lifestyle in utter despair, realising the futility of decades long struggling and compromises.

    • There are two more stages which cannot be uniquely placed in the above sequence. These are relatively recent developments.

Bariatric surgery. This surgical procedure reduces the food intake capacity and gives satiety with lesser quantity. That in turn reduces Blood Sugar lelevel as well as body mass.

Insulin Pump Implantation. As indicated by the name a pump that sends Insulin to bloodstream is implanted on the patient. It works on battery power and has a refillable/replaceable storage of Insulin. Pumping rate is presetable. The approximate size is comparable to a matchbox.

Some Diabetic Neuropathy Gangrene cases[edit | edit source]

Anxious waiting! Wondering what surprise this time? Fingers or foot!?


A MalayalaM news paper report

Met two Diabetic patients suffering severe pain due to gangrened foot, on a railway platform. This sight forced me to a news paper office near by. I explained the encounter & my different experience with LWMDR.

The reporter is nice & was patient enough to listen to me for 2 hours!

They published reports at their printed & online editions. A Malayalam news paper report.

A different experience - Diabetes cured

The diabetes mellitus of User:Georgedappilly is cured.

Sample lab results  are given there. Details (in vernacular language MalayalaM) are placed there. The English versionof procedures, experiences & results is released.

Type 2 diabetese is supposed and popularly accepted by experts world over to be incurable. That one is what is cured in him by diet management (appropriate technology).

Comment: To monitor your condition, preferably have periodical test using a suitable test kit and/or consultation to doctors.

My latest Blood test report


This is done as part of routine quarterly cardiology check up. Completing a decade of diagnosing Diabetes. All the tested parameters are normal, in range.

Sl No. Parameter Test method Result/value Unit Ref. Range
1 FBS Hexokinase 95 mg/dL 70-100
2 Cholesterol CHOD PAP 129 mg/dL <200
3 Triglycerides GPO Enzymatic 54 mg/dL <150
4 HDL Cholesterol Homogenous enzymatic 59 mg/dL >40
5 LDL Colesterol Homogeneous enzymatic 62 mg/dL <100
6 VLDL Calculated 10 mg/dL 10-30
7 Cholesterol/HDL ratio Calculated 2
8 Blood Urea Nitrogen GLDH Urease kinetic method 9.3 mg/dL 8-23
9 Creatinine Jaffes Kinetic method 1 mg/dL 0.60-1.30
10 Total Leukocyte Count TC 6300 cells/cumm 4000-10000
11 Platelet Count
156 thousand/ 150-400
12 Haemoglobin% Hb 13.5 g/dL 13-16
13 Packed Cell Volume PCV 42.9 % 40-54
14 Glucose 2 Hr PPBS Hexokinase method 86 mg/dL <140
15 Insulin fasting ECLIA 5.41 micro U/ml 2.60-24.90

A very brief description of George's experience[edit | edit source]

A blood test on Jul 07, 2006 showed FBS 118 mg/dl & PPBS 197 mg/dl. Doctor declared him diabetic and prescribed Amaryl 1.0 mg 1/2-0-0. With doctor's permission he went on diet management without taking medicine. Regular periodic check ups showed positive changes.

On Jan 24, 2009 switched from FBS-PPBS monitoring to FBS, PPBS & HbA1C (HPLC in D10 Biorad)monitoring. That day HbA1C showed 6.3% (reference range: 4.5%-6.3%). Next on Apr 22, 2009 it came down to 6.1% and on Jul 25, 2009 to 5.9%!!!

Then he decided to go for a GTT and had it on Sep 10, 2009. From FBS 85 mg%, with an oral glucose load of 75 gms it went to 155 at 1/2 hr, to 160 at 1 hr, came down to 135 at 1.5 hrs, to 100 at 2 hrs and to 90 at 2.5 hrs!!!

According to endocrineweb ( and Wikipedia these results show that his diabetes is cured.

In order to make things doubly sure, he took a second GTT at another
lab (of an N A B H, I S O & A C H S I accredited hospital).
That corroborated the previous test result.

HbA1C & Serum Insulin[edit | edit source]

Date FBS(mg/dl) PPBS(mg/dl) HbA1c(%) Remarks
07.07.2006 118 197 Not tested Diagnoded Diabetes
20.01.2009 108 ## 161 ## 6.3* *24.01.2009
22.04.2009 115 ## 74 ## 6.1
......Till this Diabetic .......After this NOT Diabetic Hence SPECIAL regimen DISCONTINUED
09.07.2009 .. 100# .. .. > Not tested; # > 6 Sweets
25.07.2009 108 ## 74 ## 5.9
10.09.2009 85 100$ .. $ GTT-1
14.09.2009 109 118$$ .. $$ GTT-2
07.10.2009 97 ## 98 ## 6.1
27.01.2010 100 ## 105 ## 6.0
28.04.2010 105 ## 131 ## 6.2
31.07.2010 107 ## 88 ## 6.2
07.12.2010 96 ## 94 ## 5.9 ## Hexokinase method
25.03.2011 97 145 6.1 Serum Insulin (Eclia) 10.03 micro U/ml. ---- Ref. Range: 2.6 - 24.9
12.07.2011 104 ## 99 ## 6.2 ..
14.10.2011 89 92 6.3 ..
13.01.2012 100 ## 85 ## 5.9 Children vacation, X'mas, Newyear
09.11.2012 104## 113## 5.9 Test at ACHSI and NABL certified lab
22.02.2013 100 ## 104 ## 5.9 PPBS after BF of {3 Iddali (alias Idli) = 300 k cal + 1 cup daal saambaar + 0.5 cup coconut chutney + coffee with milk & sugar}
<17.04.2013 92 .. 5.9
07.08.2013 99 ## .. 5.6 Routine quarterly check up
06.11.2013 103 ## .. 5.9 ..
22.11.2013 93 GM (1)

94 GM (2)

.. .. (1) 9Hr 45 min FASTING


31.11.2013 .. 127 GM ..
26.08.2017 94 .. 5.8 Routine cardiology quarterly checkup
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Long Wheat Mash Diet Regimen (LWMDR)[edit | edit source]

... #LWMDR... A name (GEM diet) was coined during March 2013 by a gentleman who is diabetic for more than two decades - 1991 onwards. He was administering 99 units of insulin & 1700 mg Metformin tab daily. He is very happy with the relief achieved by following my special diet. The word he chose to denote his experience, by following the diet detailed below, right from week one is amazing. It was then that he coined that name. The improvement continue(s/d) through the 11th week (June first week of 2013) also seamlessly.

But a Google search revealed that there is another diet existing with the same name, for weight reduction. Hence the need of an unique name being imperative, this new name - Long Wheat Mash Diet Regimen (LWMDR) - is chosen to avoid duplication/confusion.

Modus operandi[edit | edit source]

  • In order to obtain initial conditions, get FBS, PPBS, HbA1C, Fasting Serum Insulin, Lipid profile, Serum Creatinine, E S R & C-peptide tests done before hand.

  1. Facilitate required (optimum-NOT maximum) rest to pancreas by TOTALLY AVOIDING sweet intake; avoid fruits as well till getting CURED. Avoid Maida flour, softened with Alloxan as it destroys Beta cells of Pancreas.
  2. Substitute break fast and dinner by long-wheat kanji (porridge/mash) with a pinch of salt as required (or Chapati, Puttu, unleavened bread etc), curries (hot/sour side dishes - with no sweet, no starchy vegetables). Continue lunch as it is (with restrictions on oil, fat, starchy vegetables like potato, tapioca etc & sweet). Take all the three meals stomach full. As body extracts micro medicine from LWM, intake is to be equispaced & voluminous; hence LWM swapped with staple part of breakfast & dinner.
  3. Reduce food intake frequency by postponing &/or combining and filling the gaps with plain water, buttermilk, fresh lime juice without sugar, vegetable salads etc. Most of the root-vegetables are rich in starch. May eat or drink more of LWM if number of intakes is three (3) or less including refreshments (snacks, tea, coffee, cool drinks etc.) in a day. Reduce oil & fat intake.
  4. Brisk, medium or at least normal walk preferably for an hour daily.


  1. Buy & use only unbroken long-wheat lest you should be cheated.
  2. If blood sugar does not start decreasing in a month, avoid smoking & liquor if you are in the habit of having those.
  3. Monitor blood sugar regularly - PPBS weekly, FBS at least monthly & HbA1C quarterly.
  4. If already on tab. or insulin inj. one must continue those & monitor blood sugar more frequently, preferably daily, at least for a week. Else one may slip into low blood sugar problem (hypoglycaemia?). As the FBS approach (not reach) lower limit (70 mg/dL or 3.89 mmol/L), reduce medication in small quantity either in consultation with your medical adviser or based on your judgement in conultation with me. Continue tapering down medicines till doses reach zero. Continue LWMDR till confirming cure by FBS, PPBS, HbA1c, OGTT, Serum Insulin & C-peptide tests after being ON NORMAL DIET for a few weeks.
  5. Neglecting any of the above eight points (four of modus operandi and four of caution) is similar to removing one of the legs of a table.

As you approach CURE, progress will be slower.[edit | edit source]

  • In the case of advanced & prolonged diabetics having large medication, improvement (blood sugar reduction) will be visible on a daily basis.
  • In moderate cases progress will be shown on a weekly or monthly basis only.
  • Initial cases or those who have returned to near-normal values will see only monthly or quarterly betterment.
  • Once blood sugar is normal, the cure process starts. Its progress will be still slower because the damaged organ (pancreas) is to get repaired.
  • First improvement will be in PPBS, then comes FBS & subsequently HbA1c.

Why use only whole-grain Long Wheat?[edit | edit source]

  1. Broken or floured LW can be undetectably adulterated. It will be ineffective, in curing Diabetes, proportionate to the extent of adulteration.
  2. Adulteration is usually done using cheaper alternates for financial gain of manufacturer/trader & loss to buyer/consumer.
  3. Over & above these, broken/floured & packaged LW is almost twice as costly as wholegrain, in many places.
  4. Most important: Static charge accumulation by dry grinding may damage the curative ability of LW. If the static charge from the hand of a tradesman or engineer can damage man-made VLSIs & computer chips, the possibility of LW getting damaged can not be ruled out.
Most of the statements in this whole article (not this section alone) are my personal experiences, observations & inferences.
Those are subjected only to my logical thinking and not to the so called rigorous scientific study or analysis.

Some remarks

  1. Diabetes (Type II) is considered to be mainly inherited from members up the family tree. Obesity, side effect of some medicines, sedentary life style, physiological or psychological shocks and some unknown reasons are also regarded as its causes.
  2. The victims as well as phisicians feel, belive & tell it can only be (supposedly) watched, monitored & controlled carefully,
  3. and have to teach & learn to live with it for ever.
  4. But this User's experience indicate that diabetes is more caused than happening.
  5. and can be prevented/cured and need not live with it for ever.
  6. The opinion that any amount of sweet or starch intake is OK until one become diabetic is NOT right.
  7. Pancreas is not meant to work 24X7 like the heart & lungs. It needs rest! Frequent food intakes strains it, instead.
However meticulous be the maintenance and good be the control of one's Diabetes, its degenerative feature DO persist
and damage vital organs (like Kidney, Eyes, Heart,...) in due course.
That is why a diabetic patient passes away every 10 seconds (
It is NOT SO after cure.

Duration required for diabetes cure[edit | edit source]

Presently (Nov 2009) data available is with regard to a single case of the User:Georgedappilly. It took three (3) years (from July 2006 to July 2009) to get his diabetes cured completly. His being the maiden case, many pit-falls occurred in the process. In future, the duration can be brought down because many mistakes are known now and these can be avoided in coming cases.

The pit-falls[edit | edit source]

Mistaking normal FBS & PPBS values for CURE[edit | edit source]

Blood sugar (FBS blue & PPBS red) history from pre diabetic to post diabetic phase
  • Blood sugar history from pre-diabetic to post-diabetic phase (FBS blue & PPBS red)
  1. On completion of eight(8) weeks of special regimen, as the PPBS and FBS came below 140mg% and 105mg% respectively, he marginally relaxed the food restrictions. This moved PPBS above 140mg% in just twelve (12) days (!) {where as it took more than forty (40) days for the FBS to cross the 105mg% mark}.
  2. PPBS fell even below FBS level (105mg%) by Jan 2007 (by reintroducing diet control) and remained there till Feb 2007. This was misunderstood as CURE and again relaxed the intake constraints. By a lapse of four (4) months, even though FBS remained much below 105mg% (at June beginning) PPBS shot up above 140 mg%.
  3. On reimposing the restrictions, once again PPBS dropped down even below 105mg% (FBS level) and continued there for three months (12 weeks!). This again was wrongly interpreted as a cure and led to giving up of restrictions. This pushed up the PPBS to 192mg% by July 2008 (even though FBS continued near 105mg%).
  4. From mid August to end December 2008, PPBS remained below 140mg% (PPBS upper limit) & FBS continued near or below 105mg% (FBS upper limit). For a fourth time he was misled by these low FBS-PPBS values. As it should have happened, he relaxed diet control and ended up in PPBS reaching 161mg%.
  • Reintroducing of diet control this time (Jan 20, 2009 onwards) really did the job. After five (5) months he got an opportunity to subject his pancreas to a qualification test.

My experience with FRUITS, during diabetes[edit | edit source]

HandDrawnBloodSugarHistory - ManyPointers.jpg
Plantain fruit[edit | edit source]
  1. On Jul 07, 2006 my FBS & PPBS were 118 & 197 respectively. My cardiologist prescribed Amaryl. With his permission I started a new regimen of modified diet (which later on others christened as GEM Diet). In three weeks (on Aug 01, 2006) those values moved to 120 & 155. In another month (on Sep 01, 2006) those came down to 100 & 135; both in range or NORMAL.
  2. Mistaking this as cure re-introduced sugar to morning & evening coffee and restarted taking one plantain fruit after dinner. In eleven days (on Sep 12, 2006) PPBS rose to 155.
  3. As two sweet items (sugar & fruit) were introduced simultaneously, pinpointing the culprit was impossible. Plantain fruit being natural unprocessed sweet & presuming that sugar is the culprit, withdrew sugar & continued the fruit intake. In another three weeks (on Oct 04, 2006) FBS & PPBS registered 102 & 160 respectively.
  4. Even though both values are higher than their previous ones, the pictorial representation
    shows that the gradient (rate of growth) is lesser now. Even though this clearly indicated that both sugar and fruit increases blood sugar, I decided to continue taking plantain & avoid sugar for one more month. This was to provide time for the body to stabilise things and hoping that natural/fruit sweet may be harmless for diabetics as ALL 'EXPERTS' say. Next month's test results PROVED THOSE EXPERTS WRONG!! On Nov 07, 2006 FBS & PPBS were 121 & 166 respectively.
  5. Obviously there was no option other than to discontinue fruit intake also. In one month (on Dec 07, 2006) FBS & PPBS were 91 & 115 mg/dl. In another month (on Jan 02, 2007) those dropped to 80 & 98 and in one more month (on Feb 03, 2007) even though FBS marginally fluctuated up (to 83) PPBS decreased to 96 mg/dl.
  6. As both FBS & PPBS remained VERY LOW for two months, again reintroduced sugar in coffee & one plantain fruit at dinner. After two months (on May 29, 2007) while FBS maintained low normal value of 85 PPBS marked an increase to 155.
  7. Again withdrawing sugar & fruit brought back PPBS to 100 on Jul 17, 2007 when FBS rose to 105! After three months (on Oct 15, 2007) FBS & PPBS were 94 & 104.
  • On the strength of three months' LOW NORMAL BLOOD SUGAR values, again decided to introduce sugar & fruit intake.
Apple & Orange[edit | edit source]
  • 8. It was at this point of time that my wife (who is a voracious reader of women's periodicals in malayalam) showed a health article authored by a modern medicine practitioner. It categorically stated that low sweet fruits like APPLE & ORANGE are very safe & appropriate for even Diabetic patients. Additionally she reminded me the age old proverb "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". From next day onwards we ate either orange or apple daily; one each if small and half each if large. As I was under the impression that I am cured, tested only FBS for the next six months. All the FBS results were good. On Apr 29, 2008 when I got both FBS & PPBS tested (to consult my cardiologist) I was taken aback totally. Even though FBS was only 100, PPBS was very high - a shocking 165 mg/dl. Next test after ten weeks (Jul 08, 2008) clearly showed that things are worsening; FBS was 107 & PPBS was 192 - almost back to square one!

I said to myself hell with the expert's write-up on apple/orange. Those who coined the APPLE proverb would not have had Diabetes. Obviously I reverted to NO SWEET. Next test after six weeks (on Aug 22, 2008) showed FBS 100 & PPBS 135. Test on eight weeks (on Oct 17, 2008) marked a marginal increase in FBS to 109, PPBS dropped to 125 (both to within limits). Next test on Dec 20, 2008 (after 9 weeks) also pegged decrease; FBS to 95 & PPBS to 120.

  • 9. Unfortunately a fourth time too I was misled by the low BS values & obviously restarted sugar - sweet intake and ended up in PPBS shooting up, to 161mg%.
  • 10. It was at this time that I got HbA1C tested for the first time. The value was 6.3%. Then on things made a quantum change. Progress was in leaps & bounds. Rest is history.

Qualification test of PANCREAS

On July 8, 2009 associated with his visit to 10 houses between 6pm & 1030pm he consumed nearly a dozen sweet items. Next noon he took a wedding feast lunch. It was sumptuous with four (4) very sweet paayasams (porridge) and three (3) other sweet items in addition to more than a dozen other servings. (That day's breakfast was normal since long wheat mash had already been discontinued long ago, presuming cure.) A blood test after two hours of lunch showed a PPBS level of 100mg%!!

Time table[edit | edit source]

Event Date MM-DD-YY Duration
Diet & food suppliment start Jul 8, 2006 7-8-6
FBS & PPBS within limits Sep 1, 2006 9-1-6
Time taken for FBS & PPBS within limits 55 days
Food suppliment (long wheat mash) intermittent discontinuites Jul 2007
Time taken for Food suppliment intermittent breaks (discontinuities) 1 year
PPBS normal after heavy sweet intake Jul 9, 2009 7-9-9
Time taken for PPBS normal after heavy sweet intake 3 years
First proof test (GTT) Sep 10, 2009 9-10-9 3Yr 2Months
Second proof test (GTT at an NABH accredited lab) Sep 14, 2009 9-14-9 3Yr 2Months

Hindsight[edit | edit source]

  1. Had the diet relaxations been not done, the cure would have been faster and complete cure would have occurred much earlier.
  2. Had the information about HbA1C test been put to use earlier, misinterpreting low/normal FBS-PPBS values to be the indication of a cure would not have happened.
  3. But for the misinterpretation of low FBS-PPBS, the diet relaxation would not have been resorted to.

Anticipation[edit | edit source]

For patients on tablets or injection (insulin) time required for complete cure can be longer. This is because their treatment will have two phases:

  1. Tapering down the medicine dosage to zero.
  2. Allowing the system to repair the impaired pancreas (beta cells).

Future requirement[edit | edit source]

In order to arrive at more accurate time estimates, co-operation of more volunteers are required. Georgedappilly cannot harness his own body for the simple reason that he is no more a diabetic. Cooperation of diabetic persons who are on tablets or insulin injection for a fairly long period only will help arrive at better time estimates.

The long and emmer wheats

Long wheat

Long wheat is the trade name of a variety of wheat available in the Indian market. It is more than twice as costly as the common wheat (in India). A picture of the long wheat is given in the gallery below. It compares well with the Emmer wheat

A research scholar of Dept. of Botany, University of Kerala Campus, Kariavattom, Trivandrum clarified that the Botanical name of the long wheat is Triticum dicoccon.

Name in different languages[edit | edit source]

Sl.# Language Region Country Species genus Source
01 Latin(Scientific) Botanical Many countries T.dicoccon

(alias dicoccum)

triticum Internet
02 English Global Several countries Emmer Wheat Wikipedia
03 English India India Long wheat Traders
04 MalayalaM Keralam India Soochi goothamb (script) Thandamma Mathew (Mother of georgedappilly)
05 MalayalaM Keralam India Sooji goothamb (verbal) Thandamma Mathew (Mother of georgedappilly)
06 Tamil Tamil Nadu India Samba godhumai A friend (Tamil)


07 Tamil Tamil Nadu India Chamba godhumai (alias) An ex-colleague (Tamil)
08 Tamil Nagercoil TN India Oosi godhumai (alias) An ex-neighbour (Tamil)
09 Kannada Karnataka India Java godhi P.Janardanan
10 Goa India Suve gov U.Janardana Naik,VSSC
11 Telugu Andhra India Pedda Godhumalu S.Ramakrishna
11a Telugu Aandhra India Poduvu Godhumalu
11b Telugu Hyderabad, Erstwhile Andhra India Makka Gehun kashigari
12 Marathi Maharashtra India Khapli gahu Veena Dhekane
13 Marathi Maharashtra(Rural) India Lal gahu Chandan Prayag
13a Marathi Pune India Jaada Gehun Anil Gupta Long Wheat interesting information; Anil Gupta Hindi speaking Rajastani traders of Pune
13b Marathi Solapur Maharashtra India Jad Gehun Saxenaen Amit Photos of Long Wheat And Availability
14 Assaamese Assaam India Suji ghaum Bhattacharya (RVTI Kzm)
15 Bengali West Bengal India Suji ghav Rajan Panicker (P&P Kzm)
16 Hindi Delhi, U P, Bihar,

M P, H P, Haryana

India Jau ghehnoo R.N.Singh,VSSC
16A Hindi Central India India Lambe baal waala (long haired) Gehu (Wheat) Gphilip, DIHU
17 Italy Italy farro Ashok Menon Malasia
18 Punjabi Punjab India Javi Kanak
19 Bengali West Bengal India Yob?? (Job ??) * gom A K Ray (VSSC) {* Yob=Written, Job=Spoken}
19a Bengali West Bengal India Lal Gam G G Bandyopadhyay, VSSC
20 Punjabi Punjab India Kanak
21 ?????? Bangalore India Samba Wheat Nilgiri's
22 ????? Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan India Javi Kanak writes: Note: there are two types of javi, One like barley(Jau), and other Like Wheat(Kanak). Language= Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan
23 Gujarati Gujarat India Jouv Ghau Jayesh, Businessman, Chalai Bazaar, TVM
23a Gujarati Gujarat India Bliya avrs, member, healthunlocked BLIYA
24 Kannada Karnataka India ZAVE GODHI dssureshbabu Bangalore
25 ????? Madhya Pradesh India Doudkhani Wheat Gospi I think LONG WHEAT is "Doudkhani" wheat of M.P.
26 Kashmiri (?) Jammu & Kashmir India Sharbathi Knak (or Kanak) K L H through M N G Elayathu (both from VSSC)

Emmer wheat

The Wikipedia says

  • Emmer wheat belongs to Kingdom: Plantae, Order: Poales, Family: Poaceae, Genus: Triticum, Species: T.dicoccum, Binomial Name: Triticum dicoccum schrank, Synonyms: T.dicoccon, T.turgidum subsp.dicoccon
  • Emmer is a hulled (husked) tetraploid wheat cultivated in mountainous areas. It is famous for making bread good in taste & texture standards. It has more fiber than common wheat.

Preparing the food supplement "suuji goothamb kanji" alias long wheat mash[edit | edit source]

Soaking Long-wheat (or any dry grain/seed) in water overnight makes cooking faster and saves precious fuel/energy.
  • Measure out required quantity of whole-grain Long Wheat. Clean it by removing dust, husk & other foreign elements like stones etc.

Recipe (algorithm) one and DOSAGE

  • My wife used to cook it without soaking in water & quantity sufficient for two meals together and retaining the second half in the cooking vessel itself as it will be sterile enough to preserve for nearly 12 hours. We used water equal to six times the volume of grain, to cook. Pressure regulating weight (PRW)is put in place when steam exit is continuous. At the first whistle flame is reduced to minimum/sim. Flame is put off at 45 minutes from putting the PRW in place. PRW is removed, to open the lid, only after sufficient time required for the pressure to come to normal level.
  • On curing my Diabetes a word spread around & some interested patients ventured on LWMDR. Soon came complaints about difficulty in chewing & doubts about the quantity to be consumed.
  • Chewing issue was solved by whipping/mashing in kitchen machine.
  • With regard to quantity, a first cut thumb rule given was to use as much as required to quench the hunger or to fill the stomach.
  • Later I took the measured quantity my wife used to cook for me and weighed it. That came around 65 grams. Soon I noticed a connection between this number & my body-weight - it was around 63 kilograms those days. Then I coined an easy to remember formula to specify the quantity of dry grain to cook the staple part of one meal of LWM.
  • The quantity of Dry grain Long Wheat to be used to cook the staple part of one meal of LWM for a Diabetic patient is one gram (or more if required) per every kilogram of body-weigh of that patient. If stomach gets over-filled, reduce side dishes but not LWM.
  • Do not drain out residual water after cooking; it also will contain essential nutrients - as in the case of many other decoctions. In case of difficulty or taste constraints, try using less water for cooking or drink the residual water later on conveniently; I repeat: never drain out residual water.

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Recipe (algorithm) two

  • Add double volume of water to the measured & cleaned Long Wheat and keep it covered in a container/vessel for soaking. Four-five hours of soaking is sufficient; keeping over-night is harmless.
  • Whip in a mixie or grind in a kitchen machine or on a grinding stone, the soaked grain as a coarse or fine batter.
  • Add sufficient (5-6 times the volume of dry grain equivalent of) water & boil preferably in an open vessel till cooked. Stir continuously to avoid uneven cooking.
  • Add salt (if permitted, that is if there is no BP or Albumin complaint). It will resemble cooked OATS.
  • Consume with permitted side dishes (Veg/Non-veg excluding sweet, starchy & root vegetables).
  • This recipe makes cooking much faster, consumption & digestion easier.
  • As in the case of other things told here, I have personally experienced/verified this process & product.
  • Concistancy (thick/loose) of the food can be adjusted by varying the following parameters:
  1. Duration of soaking in water between one and four hours,
  2. Duration & speed of whipping/wet-grinding,
  3. Time of adding water during whipping/wet-grinding & quantity of water added.

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Recipe (algorithm) three (time optimised two)

  • Add double volume of water to the measured & cleaned Long Wheat and heat it in the cooking vessel for a minute or two.
  • Keep it covered in the same container/vessel for 5-10 minutes for soaking. (5 mins is sufficient for batter-bits combination).
  • Whip in a mixie or grind in a kitchen machine or on a grinding stone, the soaked grain along with the water as a coarse or fine batter.
  • Use sufficient (5-6 times the volume of dry grain equivalent of) water to extract the residual batter sticking on the inner surface of the machine by rinsing & use the same to dilute the batter.
  • Boil in an open vessel till cooked. Stir continuously to avoid uneven cooking.
  • In 3-4 minutes on stove, consistency of the stuff changes. Then heating may be lowered to minimum. In another 6-7 minutes once more consistency may change indicating cooking completion. Bubbling in the cooking vessel on flame with slower stirring also indicates cooking completion.

Rest, given below, is same as in recipe two.

  • Add salt (if permitted, that is if there is no BP or Albumin complaint). It will resemble cooked OATS.
  • Consume with permitted side dishes (Veg/Non-veg excluding sweet, starchy & root vegetables).
  • This recipe makes cooking still faster than recipe-2, consumption & digestion as in the case of recipe-2.
  • As in the case of other things told here, I have personally experienced/verified this process & product.
  • Concistancy (thick/loose) of the food can be adjusted by varying the following parameters:
  1. Duration of soaking in hot water between five and ten minutes,
  2. Duration & speed of whipping/wet-grinding,
  3. Time of adding water during whipping/wet-grinding & quantity of water added.

Recipe four - unleavened bread using Long Wheat flour

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Unleavened bread is nothing but the Indian Chappaatthi. Hence narrating preparation procedure is skipped.

Scientific evidence corroborating Georgedappilly's claim (2009) on hypoglycemic efficacy ofLong Wheat had been lying dormant for one and a half decades in a Scientific Paper [2]. Please note the positive fact contained in the included data (TAble II of the paper) [2].


The point that authors left unnoticed in the paper & caught my attention as very important is: the increase in blood sugar that happened due to the experimental diet in two fortnights was reverted by the next one fortnight in the case of Group I (who used Dicoccum whole Wheat flour) but not so in the case of Group II (who used Bread Wheat flour)!!!

This study indicates that even LW flour in the form of unleavened bread works (not only mash!) in regulating the Blood Sugar of Diabetes patients.

The referred paper is certainly a great encouragement to all those who are on LWMDR as well as those who are contemplating on trying LWMDR.

They (experts) say

Diabetes India Association[edit | edit source]

  • Diabetes India Association says "The 1997 WHO report has shown that there is a marked increase in the number of people affected with diabetes and this trend is scheduled to grow in geometric proportions in the next couple of decades".

(in millions)

1995 124.7
2000 153.9
2025 299.1

Some related issues[edit | edit source]

  • Diabetes India Association (-> open house) in different articles talk about a few related issues.
  • The DIA says "the 1997 WHO report has shown that there is a marked increase in the number of people affected with diabetes and this trend is scheduled to grow in geometric proportions in the next couple of decades".
  • The prevalence of Type 2 diabetes (non insulin dependent diabetes, NIDDM) is increasing all over the world. THE DIABETES BOMB...........READY TO EXPLODE. In India the prevalence of diabetes has increased from 5.2% in 1983 to 8.2% in 1989 and 11.6% in 1995. With the rising trend in the prevalence of diabetes, it is estimated that by the year 2000 A.D. the number of diabetic persons in India will be 33 million and the prevalence will be 14.7% in subjects aged 20 years or more. The World Health Organization (WHO) has recently acknowledged that India has the maximum number of diabetic patients in any given country in the year 1995 (19 million) and that this would increase to 57 million by the year 2025. India has thus become the "Diabetic Capital of the World".
  • The epidemic of diabetes is so widespread that there would be scarcely be anyone who does not know someone with diabetes.....

American Diabetes Association[edit | edit source]

  • The Living with diabetes page of ADA says 'they provide information and resources to help every child and every family adjust to life with diabetes'
  • More links are available -> there.

Wikipedia[edit | edit source]

  • 'Diabetes mellitus type 2 is a chronic, progressive disease that has no established cure......' says Wikipedia.
  • The words 'no definitive cure for Type 2 diabetes' can be seen here.

My Diabetes has not yet returned

Last Wednesday (27.01.2010) I had the regular quarterly health check up. Along with Lipid profile etc, blood sugar also was monitored. Fasting Blood Sugar (FBS) was 100 mg%, Post Prandial Blood Sugar (PPBS) showed 105 mg% & Glycosylated Haemoglobin (HbA1C) was 6%.

On the way to the consulting room of my physician, I met a friend & his wife. She is diabetic. Just 2 Idlis & ½ a cup of tea took her PPBS to 195 mg% where as 3 Idlis & a full cup of coffee took my PPBS to 105 mg% only!

What is happening in my case is entirely different from what many people anticipated &/or told on hearing my declaration of the cure of my diabetes.

In spite of taking rice based food thrice daily, coffee/tea with sugar, bakery sweets after lunch frequently (not daily) & 5-6 plantain fruits most of the days for seven (7) months, my diabetes DIDN'T RETURN.

What most of the visitors of my poster presentation (see albums of day 1 of 3, day 2 of 3 & day 3 of 3) (at the KERALA GRAMAM (Kerala village) exhibition arranged in connection with the 97th Indian Science Congress (ISC2010) at the Kerala University Campus, Kariavattom, Trivandrum) wanted to know was "WHAT IS THE GUARANTEE (OR ARE YOU SURE) THAT DIABETES WILL NOT RETURN?"

My reply was: "AT THIS POINT OF TIME WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IN SPITE OF NORMAL DIET MY DIABETES DID NOT RETURN FOR SIX (6) MONTHS & IF YOU ASK ME AFTER ANOTHER MONTH, I WILL SAY THAT MY DIABETES DID NOT RETURN FOR SEVEN (7) MONTHS". This has come true on Jan 27, 2010. Only after the elapse of one year (5 more months from now), I can make a statement that my diabetes did not return for an year.

In order to make a general statement that diabetes will not return for any specific duration, more time, cases & case studies are required. If the present trend continues, that may not happen in the near future for sure. Whom ever I encounter turns out to be unfortunately a pessimist.

One of my friends (a blogger reffered as Ankil) was more eager to ascertain that my claim of cure of diabetes is WRONG, than positively responding to my offer for trying to explore the possibility of a cure of HIS OWN DECADES OLD DIABETES.


I am reminded of the anecdote of KERALA CRABS.

35 weeks!

Today (Tue, March 9, 2010) I took the monthly blood sugar test (GOD-POD method). It shows FBS 80 mg% & PPBS 95mg%. This marks the successful completion of consecutive 8 months of the victory of my Pancreas over Diabetes!

Again Praise The Lord!!

But unfortunately even people with decades old diabetes, having progressive & degenerating experience finds disbelieving these results more comfortable.

One more month of no return: 39 weeks now!

The blood sugar test results of April 10, 2010 confirms that my diabetes has not returned even after 39 weeks of normal diet containing starch & sugar. FBS is 90 mg% and PPBS is 110 mg%. These values are well within limits. My pancreas is still going strong. Jump back to Section 2 - (My diabetes has not yet returned). File:DiabCureHistoryGraphEasyplot.ppt

Second anniversary special blood test over 24 hours

On completion of two years of CURE of my diabetes, a different sequence of blood sugar tests were carried out and the results are given below (thanks to my daughters for the glucometer & camera which made the total process very handy). As is customary, tested FBS to begin with. It was 92 mg/dl at 7:26 AM. Next, tested morning-PPBS at 2 hours of breakfast. It was 136 mg/dl. Noon-PPBS at 2 hours of lunch was 135 mg/dl & night-PPBS at 2 hours of supper was 133 mg/dl at 9:44 PM. Next morning it was felt that one more FBS test would give a completeness to the picture. Hence it was done & got 84 mg/dl at 7:39 AM. This special sequence test re-confirmes the fact that my experiences & findings on Diabetes CURE was & is really REAL since July 2009. It is indeed very heartening to note that my experience and findings of July 2009 gets corroborated by the study results of Dr. Roy Taylor of the prestigeous Newcastle University, UK.

Date Time Test Result


21.07.2011 0726 F B S 092
21.07.2011 1106 P P B S 136
21.07.2011 1542 P P B S 135
21.07.2011 2144 P P B S 133
22.07.2011 0739 F B S 084

142 weeks!

The blood sugar test results of April 03, 2012 confirms that my diabetes has not returned even after 142 weeks of normal diet containing starch, sugar & fat. FBS is 88 mg% and PPBS is 82 mg%. These values are well within limits. My pancreas is still going stronger!!.

My Diabetes is still not back (3+ years)

Feb 22,2013; FBS 100 mg/dl, PPBS 104 mg/dl, HbA1C 5.9%

Fourth anniversary of my diabetes cure

July 2009 - July 2013. HbA1c steady at 5.9% from Jan 2012 to April 2013 with normal rice diet, fruits & coffee/tea with sugar.

Lab results from July 2006[edit | edit source]

Oldest lab report located on 30.09.2018 in an old file

Oldest lab report.jpg

Numerical representation

Date FBS(mg/dl) PPBS(mg/dl) HbA1c(%) Remarks
27.09.2005 120 .. .. Earliest report of Dr Ramachandran's Diagnostic Services, Kumarapuram 695011 located in old file on 30.09.2018 (see picture).
07.07.2006 118 197 .. .. Not tested
01.08.2006 120 155 .. Latest entry in RED
01.09.2006 100 130 ..
12.09.2006 100 155 ..
04.10.2006 102 160 ..
07.11.2006 121 166 ..
02.01.2007 80 98 ..
03.02.2007 83 96 ..
29.05.2007 85 155 ..
17.07.2007 105 100 ..
15.10.2007 94 104 ..
29.04.2008 100 165 ..
08.07.2008 107 192 ..
20.01.2009 108 ## 161 ## 6.3* *24.01.2009
22.04.2009 115 ## 74 ## 6.1
......Till this Diabetic .......After this NOT Diabetic Hence SPECIAL regimen DISCONTINUED
09.07.2009 .. 100# .. #6 Sweets
25.07.2009 108 ## 74 ## 5.9
10.09.2009 85 100$ .. $ GTT-1
14.09.2009 109 118$$ .. $$ GTT-2
21.12.2009 .. 112 ..
07.10.2009 97 ## 98 ## 6.1
27.01.2010 100 ## 105 ## 6.0
09.03.2010 80 95 ..
10.04.2010 90 110 ..
28.04.2010 105 ## 131 ## 6.2
26.05.2010 80 100 ..
03.07.2010 95 110 ..
31.07.2010 107 ## 88 ## 6.2
27.08.2010 .. 127 ..
03.09.2010 80 140 ..
09.10.2010 80 90 ..
05.11.2010 90 GP 100 GP .. GP GOD-POD method
07.12.2010 96 ## 94 ## 5.9 ## Hexokinase method
17.02.2011 85 .. ..
18.02.2011 .. 130 ..
25.03.2011 97 145 6.1 Serum Insulin (Eclia) 10.03 micro U/ml

Ref. Range: 2.6 - 24.9

16.04.2011 95 140 ..
27.05.2011 90 GM .. GM Glucometer
03.06.2011 85 GM ..
10.06.2011 86 GM ..
13.06.2011 85 GP 100 GP ..
12.07.2011 104 ## 99 ## 6.2 ..
13.08.2011 75 GP 90 GP .. ..
13.09.2011 .. 105 .. ..
14.10.2011 89 92 6.3 ..
15.11.2011 90 (19.11.2011) 119 .. PPBS with three sweets
27.12.2011 96 (28.12.2011) GM 93 GM .. PPBS lunch
13.01.2012 100 ## 85 ## 5.9 Children vacation, X'mas, Newyear
17.02.2012 93 GM 118 GM ..
08-03-2012 85 GM 127(16-03-2012) GM ..
22-03-2012 88 GM 82(27-03-2012) .. PPBS lunch
29.03.2012 96 GM 125 GM$$$ .. $$$ GTT-3
29-08-2012 88 GM 137 GM .. Bedridden due to back pain, fools day onwards
12.10.2012 99 GM 134 GM .. Back on legs
09.11.2012 104## 113## 5.9 Test at ACHSI and NABL certified lab
02.01.2013 89 GM 132 GM ..
19.01.2013 91 GM .. .. 1/2/3 coffee/tea with milk&sugar in addition to bf, lunch & dinner regularly
22.02.2013 100 ## 104 ## 5.9 PPBS after BF of {3 Iddali (alias Idli) = 300 k cal + 1 cup daal saambaar + 0.5 cup coconut chutney + coffee with milk & sugar}
21.03.2013 99 GM .. ..
17.04.2013 92 GM-K 131 GM-KL 5.9 K=@KIMS Hospital on 16Apr. L=Lunch at 330pm, test at 530pm
07.05.2013 94 GMK .. K KIMS Hospital
04.06.2013 99 .. ..
25.06.2013 .. 109 GM-S .. S=Supper at 840pm, test at 1040pm
07.08.2013 99 ## .. 5.6 Routine quarterly check up
11.08.2013 90 GM 124 GM .. Home Gluco Meter
04.09.2013 .. 117 GM & .. & Supper PP on full-veg-feast-lunch-with-four-desserts-and-a-fruit-day
30.09.2013 97 GM .. .. 12.5 Hrs Fasting
08.10.2013 87 GM (9.X.13) 116 GM .. ..
01.11.2013 92 GM .. .. ..
06.11.2013 103 ## .. 5.9 ..
09.11.2013 .. 130 GM .. ..
22.11.2013 93 GM (1)

94 GM (2)

.. .. (1) 9Hr 45 min FASTING


30.11.2013 .. 127 GM ..
05.02.2014 99 ## .. 5.8
28.03.2014 95 GM 104 GM .. After lunch with cooked rice (300 gm) & side dishes; BF also rice based.
06.05.2014 95 GM, 98 ## .. 5.9 GM Glucometer, ## Hexokinase method
29.05.2014 89 GM 131 GM ..
06.11.2014 5.9 ..
27.12.2014 90@ 143@ .. @ Panchakarma hospital, Poojappura, Trivandrum
06.02.2015 105 ## .. 6.0 ..
13.04.2015 82 GP 148 GP .. ..
Booster dose of LWM (one meal daily) started
24.04.2015 91 ## .. 6.0 ..
23.06.2015 82 GP 124 GP .. ..
06.08.2015 95 ## .. 6.2 HPLC ..
27.08.2015 86 GP 119 &## .. & 28.08.2015
09.09.2015 .. 104 GP .. ..
22.10.2015 .. 108 GP .. ..
30.09.2015 .. .. 5.7 ! ! Colorimetry
03.11.2015 91 ## 90 ## 6.0 ..
17.11.2015 .. 108 ## .. ..
28.11.2015 73 GP .. .. ..
18.12.2015 .. 81 .. ..
28.05.2016 90 GP 73 GP .. BF: 3 appam of rice dough + egg curry + coffee with milk & sugar

2016 Onward (Numerical repreentation) continued

Date FBS(mg/dl) PPBS(mg/dl) HbA1c(%) IR2 Remarks
28.05.2016 90 GP 73 GP .. .. Not tested. Breakfast: 3 Appam of rice douh + 1 egg curry + Coffee with Milk & Sugar
03.08.2016 95 86 .. Usual breakfast 3 idlis + Coconut Chutney + Saambaar + Coffee with Sugar & Milk.

Serum Insulin (ECLIA) 5.41 micro U/ml (Range 2.60 - 24.90)

23.09.2016 .. 68 5.00 BF 6 slices of Sweet Rusk of "modern" bakeries + a large Banana fruit (hard type, very sweet), a heavy BF.
01.11.2016 99 .. 5.9 0.924
04.02.2017 96 85 GP .. 1.104
12.04.2017 90 92 .. PPBS on April 14 at 2hrs after BF: Upma + plantain fruit + 1 glass milk with 2 spoons of sugar.
01.06.2017 94 .. .. 1.051
26.08.2017 94 .. 5.8 1.260 Routine quarterly cardiology checkup. Usual 3 rice meals daily, coffee/tea with sugar, fruits almost frequently & no diab medication, no hard exercise.
28.11.2017 97 .. .. 0.979 " " " IR2=Insulin Resistance (2nd formula) desirable value LE (<=) 2.0
31.05.2018 95 ## 94 GP 5.6 1.0188 ## > Hexokinase


26.11.2020 91 5.8 0.744 KIMS Home Lab Service
23.8.2021 88 5.8 0.954 KIMS Home Lab Service

Lab report copy (not latest)


Graphical representation

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2006 to 2012.................. and 2012 Onwards

Some of my other patients[edit | edit source]

Patient code: SDPN.M.P.T.K.I.

  • Sex: Male
  • Age: 59 (on May 2010)
  • Diabetes diagnosed: 1990
  • Lab results from April 2010

Numerical representation

Date FBS(mg/dl) PPBS(mg/dl) HbA1c(%) Tabs Remarks
04.04.2010 207 288 .. ??-??-?? .. Not tested
30.04.2010 110 .. 10.0 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 Latest entry in RED
07.05.2010 80 .. .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5
17.05.2010 101 .. .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5
03.06.2010 96 .. .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
17.06.2010 125 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
25.06.2010 119 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
03.07.2010 114 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
27.07.2010 109 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
30.07.2010 .. .. 7.0 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
24.08.2010 .. 120 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
05.10.2010 145 .. 7.0 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
09.12.2010 137 .. 8.6 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
10.12.2010 .. 111 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
23.02.2011 120 .. 6.6 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
11.04.2011 134 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
02.06.2011 .. 105 6.4 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 ..
09.08.2011 .. 185 7.5 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
17.08.2011 .. 140 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
26.08.2011 .. 151 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
14.11.2011 .. 114 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
06.01.2012 .. 97 6.95 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
12.01.2012 113 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
31.01.2012 .. 97 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
.. ..

Patient code: 41SKLM.F.M.T.K.I.

  • Sex: F
  • Age: 70 as on May 2010
  • Diab diagnosed: 2000
  • Lab results from May 2010

Numerical representation

Date FBS(mg/dl) PPBS(mg/dl) HbA1c(%) Tabs Remarks
10-05-10 110 140 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5 .. Not tested
21-05-10 137 10.0 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5 Latest entry in RED
01-06-10 125 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5
10-06-10 110 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
14-07-10 137 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5
28-07-10 140 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.5
17-08-10 120 .. 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
01-09-10 100 .. 0.5 - 0.0 - 0.0
17-09-10 110 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
28-09-10 109 150 7.0 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
16-02-11 159 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
20-02-11 134 7.0 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
18-04-11 215 8.6 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
28-04-11 227 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
26-05-11 120 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
13-06-11 160 6.6 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
04-07-11 108 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
12-07-11 113 6.4 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 ..
04-08-11 112 7.5 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
16-08-11 121 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
16-09-11 130 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
22-10-11 212 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
31-10-11 184 6.95 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
11-11-11 214 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
13-11-11 136 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
17-12-11 150 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
01-02-12 .. 128 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
10-02-12 118 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
13-03-12 120 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Start 1 Plantain (small variety banana)

in empty stomach

24-03-12 132 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Stop plantain, start exercise
03-05-12 109 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
30-05-12 100 140 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Exrc^ 22#
12-09-12 .. 168 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
01-11-12 .. 130 .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 PP Lunch
01-12-12 122 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Impaired Fasting Glucose? Patient next to cure?

Confirm with PPBS next time.

04-01-13 105 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
04-02-13 112 .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0
10-02-13 132 GOD-POD .. .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Impaired Fasting Glucose? Confirm with PPBS next time.
14-02-13 .. 137 GOD-POD .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 It was Hepatic Insulin Impairment.
04-10-13 .. 115 GOD-POD .. 0.0 - 0.0 - 0.0 Very close to cure. 2b confirmed with HbA1c
.. ..

Patient code: AshMnnOthn.-.-.-.KL.Mlsa.

  • Sex: M, Ht 174 cm (5' 8.5"), Wt 80 kg (176.4 lbs), BMI 26.4
  • Age: 60 as on Feb 2013
  • Diab diagnosed: 1991
  • Lab results etc from xxx 1991

Numerical representation[edit | edit source]

Date FBS(mmol/L){mg/dL} PPBS(mmol/L){mg/dL} HbA1c(%) Tabs/Insulin Remarks.

Latest entry in RED

xx-xx-91 ?? ?? ?? *1.0 - *1.0 - *1.0

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More on User:Georgedappilly's unique experience

Read more on User:Georgedappilly's different diabetic experience & opinions at Posts as well as Activity of another public forum named HealthUnlocked/DiametesIndia.

It is felt that...[edit | edit source]

  1. No one else has ever accomplished this unique goal of curing Diabetes in human history till July 2009. It was considered to be humanly impossible. Hence it is felt that any one will be justified in opining that this is the Lords doing, It is marvelous in our eyes..
  2. Having conquored Diabetes which is, according to WHO, claiming six (6) lives every minute I wish to take the message and know how to as many victims in as short a time as possible because "no one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works...".
  3. From the responses of a few responsible persons it is felt that they mistook these efforts to be an attempt to infringe upon their territory."Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill."
  4. I desire to be a taste-maker, like salt, to our society. It vanishes itself into other components, improves their qualities & makes the final product tasty. The book named Bible that has the maximum number of copies printed in human history says: "You are the salt of the earth; but if salt has lost its taste, how can its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything, but is thrown out and trampled under foot".
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  6. It is felt that many people mistake me for a Long Wheat cultivator, farmer, trader or researcher. They think that I am cunningly trying to promote the prospects of Long Wheat by misleading Diabetic patients, pretending to have cured Diabetes which is considered by modern science and medicine people as a syndrome & (hence) incurable. I pity them and feel that it is already explained/replied in a book written twenty centuries ago; passage is there.
  • -----------------------Albert Einstein cannot be wrong...
  • He said "if at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it".

George Bernard Shaw is right...

  • He said: "if you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have an apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."

On inventions[edit | edit source]

Prof.A.W.Bickerton, on lunar mission, was wrong then

British Chemist (1926)

  • "This foolish idea of shooting at the moon is an example of the absurd lengths to which vicious specialisation will carry scientists working in thought-tight compartments. To escape the earth's gravitation, a projectile needs a velocity of 7 Mps(*). The thermal energy at this speed is 15180 cals. Hence the proposition appears to be basically impossible."

(* M denotes miles)

Arthur C Clark replying Bickerton...

Clark's Law propounded by the writer(science fiction) and scientist (inventor of Geo-stationary orbit)

It states in effect that

  • If a respected senior scientist says a thing can be done, he or she is almost always correct; if the scientist says it cannot be done, he or she is almost always wrong.

Another Breaking news of diabetes cure on June 24, 2011

A leading MalayalaM news paper (Malayala Manorama of Kerala - India) of today (25 June 2011) has reported an epoch making finding on curability of diabetes. It obviously is of great interest to User:Georgedappilly along with all the readers of this page and the billions of diabetics world over! A photograph of the news and its English translation are given below.

Breaking news in Malayala Manorama 25Jun2011pp5.jpg


Title of the news: Diabetes likely to be cured by low calorie food.

Body of the news:

London: Researchers of Newcastle University claim that the Type-2 diabetes seen in elders can be completely cured by sticking to low calorie food pattern for two months continuously. What this finding rejects is the thinking that diabetes is a life long disease.

The Guardian news paper reported that the experiment was carried out in 11 diabetic patients. Daily they were given food having only 600 calories in the form of vegetables and juices for two months. Medical team subjected these ones to continuous examinations.

By one week itself the fasting blood sugar (FBS) reading became normal. It was found out that the extent of Fat in Pancreas was lowered and that the Pancreas was producing Insulin as it was before the onset of diabetes.

They were returned to normal diet after two months. It was found in later examinations that 7 patients were completely cured of the disease. This method is not useful for juvenile diabetes. It is the Type-2 of adults that is cured by food regulation.

This type of diabetes is caused when Insulin production is impaired by the malfunctioning of liver and pancreas when the fat from the excess food accumulate in them. Prof. Roy Taylor of Newcastle University explained that reinstating the insulin production on melting away the fat accumulated in the pancreas, by following low calorie food pattern is the methodology.

Original full paper[edit | edit source]

This link will take you to the full text of the original paper of Prof. Dr. Roy Teylor et al

English-language articles[edit | edit source]

This was also reported in English news sources, including:

Participants reported finding the extremely strict diet difficult, but the results are very positive.

Note that positive effects from exercise and diet have long been known in type-2 diabetes, but these articles suggest that actually curing the condition was not part of conventional medical thinking.

Note also that the the study appeared to focus on a particular form of diet. It remains to be studied what the success rates are for other forms of diet (different foods, caloric intake and lengths of time), such as George's diet.

Responses of User:Georgedappilly to various English language articles[edit | edit source]

  • Comment 1: I am really excited to read this fantastic article because it validates my findings. From 2006 to 2009 I was Diabetic, but NOT afterwards. I am on normal diet afterwards. My experiences and blood-sugar test results are available at can reach it by a Google search of LONG WHEAT. It appears in the first page of search results itself.

A graphical representation of the results are also provided for ease of understanding. This article seems to be visited by more & more people. I am very much eager to discuss & share my experiences with fellow people for their benefit. E.M.George

  • Comment 2: The claim of complete cure of diabetes in 8 weeks, of the Newcastle University research team appears to be somewhat unrealistic. Based on hands-on-experience of curing own diabetes & trying to cure that of more than 100 others, it is very strongly felt that two months is too short a time to cure diabetes completely. This is explained in detail in the "Pit-falls" section of my Appropedia article. It is indubitable that 2 months is more than sufficient to completely control diabetes, but not to cure. This is told because I have really gone through this phase, as explained in the said section "Pit-falls".

600 calories a day appears to be too low. The diet I followed seems to be much easier, comfortable as well as safer. My diet had much more calories a day. I keep telling my clients that even though the special regimen is simple, it is like swimming, driving or riding a bicycle. One has to learn it under an expert & unfortunately we don't have many experts. First of all one has to assess the initial conditions such as FBS (8 to 14 hours after any food), PPBS (AT 2 hours after a meal), HbA1C (Glycosylated haemoglobin) and if possible Fasting Serum Insulin. Additionally details regarding other illness, medication for management of Diabetes, body weight & height (or BMI value) etc also are to be considered. Me as well as many of my clients feel that it is rather a smooth sail. Even though it took three years for me to cure my diabetes (2006 t0 2009), it would have been cured in much shorter a time, had I not encountered the pit-falls explained in the Appropedia article with the help of a graphical representation of blood sugar values. The mention in another comment that starvation is a cure for all problems is not true. It is felt that strict 600 calorie-a-day veg. diet need not be a necessary & sufficient condition to cure diabetes.

  • Comment 3: In fact the Newcastle research team & their 7 out of 11 volunteers seem to have fallen into the first pit in which I had fallen in early 2006. Nothing to worry. They will recognize it and come out soon! Aaaaand they will re-invent things.
  • Comment 4: See Things In Totality. Compartmentalization & Over-specialization Do Harm, Mostly! posted by E.M.George on 28 Jun 2011 at 6:00 am

600 calories a day is at least impractical (AchsBuster) if not insane (Sonya)! There is an Indian proverb which means anything in excess is bad. So is starving or eating!! I was diabetic, but not now. I am on my usual diet since july 2009. The dreaded diabetes has not returned yet. Even if it returns, I am not afraid. I know how to cure it once again. One need not be on 600 cal a day, or no carb, or no meat diet, or keep running to cure diabetes. One has to know the limits & adhere to it. There is a food substitute mentioned in the ancient Indian medical literature (Aayurveeda) for curing the illness that expels sugar through urine. A judicious use of that grain (Long wheat) and avoidance of sugar & fruits, moderate control on other food intakes during treatment period is almost sure to cure diabetes. My BMI was less than 21 when I became diabetic. When I was cured of diabetes also my BMI was same. I have very strong hereditary factors in favor of diabetes. Both my parents were diabetic & continued to be so till death. My father died of hypoglycemia in the year 1958. Diabetes is a basic illness, similar to a voltage drop in an electronic or electrical circuit. That problem will adversely affect all related/connected sub-systems.

This does not mean that diabetes is incurable. GOOD LUCK ALL DIABETICS WORLD OVER.

Diabetes is CURABLE, but.[edit | edit source]

  • Diabetes is indubitably curable.
  • Cure is not as fast as Prof. Roy Taylor et al of Newcastle University UK claimed in their paper [1].
  • The paper was presented at the American Diabetes Association conference on June 24, 2011 and published in Diabetologia (2011) 54:2506-2514.
  • It has 46 References! (The article is also available online with open access (Distributed under the terms of the relative Commons Attribution Noncommercial License which permits any noncommercial use, distribution and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author(s) and source are credited) at
  • The fact is that the claim of cure of diabetes made in this paper [1] appears to be only partially true.
  • It is vividly brought out in the second paragraph of second column of Diabetologia (2011) 54:2511.

That paragraph titled Post-intervention observation says: "At follow-up 12 weeks after completion of the dietary intervention...... HbA1c was unchanged (6.0 +/- 0.2 vs 6.2 +/- 0.1% [42 +/- 2 vs 44 +/- 1 mmol/mol]; p=0.10) and fasting plasma glucose increased modestly (5.7 +/- 0.5 vs 6.1 +/- 0.2 mmol/l; p<0.01), with a 2 h OGTT plasma glucose of 10.3 +/- 1.0 mmol/l. Three participants had recurrence of diabetes as judged by a 2 h post-load plasma glucose > 11.1 mmol/l......."

Elsewhere in the article [1] one finds values of "Fasting concentration" of Glucose for different cases and on different days during the course of this research. As these are expressed in "mmol/l" unit, an attempt is made to represent those in "mg/dl" which is more popular among laymen and hence easily comprehensible to common men. They are tabulated below.

Fasting Concentration Controls Baseline Week 1 Week 4 Week 8 Week 8+12 2Hr OGTT at Week 20
Plasma glucose (mmol/l) 5.3 +/- 0.1 9.2 +/- 0.4 5.9 +/- 0.4 5.7 +/- 0.6 5.7 +/- 0.5 6.1 +/- 0.2 10.3 +/- 1.0
Serum blood glucose (mg/dl) 95.5 +/- 1.8 165.7 +/- 7.2 106.3 +/- 7.2 102.7 +/- 10.8 102.7 +/- 9.01 109.9 +/- 3.6 185.0 +/- 18.0

Comparison of these numbers with their specified limits given in the table below and taking note of the escalation of FBS in spite of "advice on portion size and healthy eating", clearly indicate that the cure is but a temporary phenomena in the case of this research, as explained in the "The pit-falls" section here. CURE is far far away, "long way to go before one can sleep".

Concentration Fasting lower limit Fasting upper limit 2 hr PP 2 hr OGTT
Plasma glucose (mmol/l) 3.89 5.55 7.77 7.77
Serum blood glucose (mg/dl) 70 100 140 140

The fact that 3 out of 7 claimed to be "cured" have already been reverted to diabetes in three months (2 h post-load plasma glucose > 11.1 mmol/l) makes the result statistically non-significant - though NOT insignificant (only 4 out of 11 = 36.36 %).

This does not mean or imply that diabetes be incurable. It only means that some more time and effort were required. The Newcastle University team did not complete the LAST MILE and hence missed the goal! Probably the ADA conference date persuaded them to prepare and make a declaration prematurely. Look at my results at (Lab results from July 2006.).

Results given above show that all the participants of this experiment are at the fag end of the last lap of their race towards recurrence of diabetes by the end of third month of "normal diet" with advice on portion size & healthy eating.

Further[edit | edit source]

Wikipedia in Interpretation of OGTT results says ... FPG should be below 6.1 mmol/l (110 mg/dl). Between 6.1 and 7.0 mmol/l (110 and 125 mg/dl) are "impaired fasting glycaemia", and repeatedly at or above 7.0 mmol/l (126 mg/dl) are diagnostic of diabetes... It continues: The 2 hour OGTT glucose level should be below 7.8 mmol/l (140 mg/dl). Levels between this and 11.1 mmol/l (200 mg/dl) indicate "impaired glucose tolerance". Glucose levels above 11.1 mmol/l (200 mg/dl) at 2 hours confirms a diagnosis of diabetes.

Measuring the UK study outcome with the W H O yardstick[edit | edit source]

The Wikipedia further says:

1999 WHO Diabetes criteria - Interpretation of OGTT Glucose levels

Glucose levels NORMAL NORMAL IFGlycaemia IFGlycaemia IGTolerance IGTolerance DM DM
Venous Plasma Fasting 2hrs Fasting 2hrs Fasting 2hrs Fasting 2hrs
(mmol/l) <6.1 <7.8 > 6.1 & <7.0 <7.8 <7.0 >7.8 >7.0 >11.1
(mg/dl) <110 <140 >110 & <126 <140 <126 >140 >126 >200

I > Impaired, F > Fasting, G > Glucose, D > Diabetes, M > Mellitus

In the light of this WHO criteria, it becomes evident that no one of the eleven volunteers of the Newcastle study is in the NORMAL or Impaired Fasting Glycaemia levels. Out of the seven (7) claimed to have been cured, four (4) were reverted to Impaired Glucose Tolerance level (FPG < 7.0 mmol/l & 2hr OGTT > 7.8 mmol/l) and the rest three (3) were in the Confirmed Diagnosis of Diabetes Mellitus level (2hr OGTT > 11.1 mmol/l).

In brief

To put it in a nutshell, as per the 1999 WHO Diabetes criteria - Interpretation of OGTT Glucose levels no one of the eleven (11) volunteers of the Newcastle University study appears to be cured.

Followup by Dr. R. Taylor, NCU UK

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Till today May 31, 2015 number of visits is 83,001; Oct 17, 2015 it is 97,365; 6PM Nov 15, 2015 it is 100,111.

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George E M

Welcome[edit source]

Hi friend,

Evidently we are interested in the well being of ourself as well as our fellow people. Hence in our efforts towards realising that goal, let us share our knowledge & experiences to improve the quality of life of one and all in what ever humble way we can.

Please feel free to express your sincere opinions & suggestions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Georgedappilly, 17 September 2009

"I am from Mauritius.[edit source]

Have recently been diagnosed with diabetes. Last reading HBA1c was 8.5. I would like to follow a natural cure. Feel very interested while reading your case but do not know where I can get the Long Wheat or Long Wheat Mash DR here in Mauritiu. Would be happy if you could advise appropriately"

Suitability for Appropedia?[edit source]

I'm very interested to hear more about what exactly you did - but at the same time I'm not sure it's within the scope of Appropedia. This amounts to original research in medical matters, and we don't have a lot of that expertise in our community (compared to the expertise in public health, which is quite different, and solar, composting, etc).

Another issue is that a single case might be very enlightening, but needs more analysis and questioning (e.g. about the initial diagnosis, rate of false positives in the initial test...) before lessons are drawn for the average person.

I'd like to make sure you have a place to share this, however, to encourage analysis and discussion. So I won't suggest we delete it now, but rather that we look for a suitable community where it can be shared. Anyone have any ideas?

George, I'll wait till you've finished adding details, then ask a couple of medical people for their thoughts. --Chriswaterguy 04:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Already getting in touch with medical people[edit source]

Hi Chris,

Thank you very much for your generosity.

I am already on the move to get the thoughts & critical opinions on this matter. Have already collected the contact details of a few. Drafting a letter is in progress. Will be back to you soon.


E.M.George[edit source]

These persons have responded elsewhere (Blog/e-mail) & I have copied the text here. Hope they will soon join the discussion here. Some more doctors are also likely to join soon. Shooter 11:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Indu-Pappu[edit source]

George Uncle,

Diabetes is a perfect example of a disease condition which you can manage and learn to live with through effective dietery regulations and exercise regime and by making a few life style changes. Well done to you for making the effort, and sharing the results and knowledge which will be an encouragement to many people with the condition. This can be further enhanced by following a few remedies and life style changes recommended by our own indigenous Ayurvedic medicine!

Happy to know that you are keeping well.

ankil[edit source]

dear indu-pappu,

Shri george has claimed that he has managed to cure his diabetes and he is not now learning to live with it.

If you are a doctor , please comment on the exact point raised.

Indu-Pappu[edit source]

I do not think George has been 'cured' of Diabetes. Although it seems to be the case. Too early to tell. He doesnot account for the activity he did between 12.30 and 2pm ie-after the 'Sadya' until his blood test. Variations in blood sugar levels are possible in borderline cases like George's.

A longer time of study/ observation under controlled conditions where diet, activities, exercise and lifestyle changes are accounted for needs to be done to CONCLUDE that George has been 'Cured'of Diabetes.

Ankil[edit source]

Thank you indu-pappu.

Georgedappilly[edit source]

Thank you for pushing the healthy discussion further forward. Hope it will give good result.

Georgedappilly[edit source]

Hi Dr Indu-Pappu,

Thank you very much for being so clear & straight forward. I am sorry to have omitted the accounting of activity between 12.30 and 2pm. This was resorted to be brief & in fact I didn’t realize that it is so critical. Else it would not have been omitted. Here it is for every one:

The marriage & ‘Sadya’ were at RDR Auditorium, Edappazhanjinji, Trivandrum. From there walked up to the Bus Stop, probably hundred meters (100 m) away (or near!). Waited there nearly 3 -4 minutes for a bus to arrive. Got into it and traveled up to Statue bus stop in front of Govt. Secretariat. Got down there, crossed the road, after a few minutes boarded another bus via Kannanmoola - Medical College and alighted at the Medical College High School stop, ie. right in front of the lab. The lab technician asked to wait till 2pm, when I told that I had lunch at 1230 and want to have a PPBS test. Relaxed on the sofa and was called in by 2pm.

A photograph of the result sheet is placed at Kindly have a look at the next picture also, which is the lab report of a GTT done subsequently.

Please feel free to comment on these.

Indu-Pappu[edit source]

Hi everybody

Looks like George was only a borderline diabetic. Hence he has responded to dietary regulations and Exercise (walking).

May be he should not have been labelled a diabetic in the first place without checking for a few months.But I am afraid as a qualified physician I cannot comment whether he is cured or not without a proper controlled study, especially since Diabetes is heriditary and genetically linked. So there is a chance that he might experience variations in the blood sugar levels again in future (God forbid). Therefore it will be irresponsible of me as a physician to say that Diabetes can be cured and give the society false hope. All I can say is that diabetes certainly can be 'managed'.So , George, forgive my hesitation to say that you are cured.

But I can assure you that George's experience is not uncommon, glitches like these happen in the body. May be the initial readings have been a glitch . Maybe he should not have been labelled without confirming for a few times. This then raises the issue of how many more are being labelled as diabetics after one or two tests? Should we try dietary regulations first before labelling a person diabetic etc.

I am open for discussion.

User:Devasena[edit source]

HI, Like Ind Pappu said, the doctors should wait for a few days to see how much the blood sugar comes down. MY doctor declared me a diabetic after one test and refused to allow me to try for a few days to bring down the sugar level without drugs, with lifestyle changes.I thought this was bad. You are a good doctor. May the world aound in sensible doctors like you. God bless you!

Dr Suvy Manuel said...[edit source]

Mr EM george uncles experience regarding his diabetic status is quite interesting. I know him personally and was quite amazed to see his diabetic and non diabetic blood sugar values.The diet pattern put forward by him definitely seems promising and i believe that more controlled clinical studies will be helpful in proving his point.

Dr suvy Manuel MDS,DNB,MFDS RCS(Eng),MOS RCS (Ed)

Dr Rajesh Cyriac[edit source]

Dear George uncle,

Happy to hear that u r in good health now...let your case be the stepping stone for intensive research in this field and god willing be a big relief for millions of people around the globe suffering from this illnesss... keep up the good work...

Dr Joe Chirayath[edit source]

Dear George uncle,

  • Happy to hear that your sugar levels are under control with the mentioned diet. Sounded interesting and maybe there's something in 'suuji gothambu' that helps.

Few things,

- Diet control as a treatment modality for diabetes mellitus is a well recognised treatment modality and the diets recommended just vary. One more thing with diabetes is - unlike some other diseases it is difficult to say that it's been cured just with a few normal values.

  • Under control might be a better terminology (as also once you go back to a normal diet it most likely will come back)

- Evidence based medicine has 5 levels of evidence - from multicentre randomised control trials(level 1) to expert opinions (level 5) (details can be obtained by a google search).

  • Single patient outcomes unfortunately don't count in evidence based studies unless a big study is done on it.

- Few more details might make this more interesting for someone to consider taking it forward as a study- what has 'suuji gothambu' in it that makes it work (an explanation as to whether it has a special role in glucose absoption/metabolism/excretion ) compared to other diet modalities.



Hi Ankil, Indu Pappu, Dr. Suvy Manuel, Dr. Joe & Dr. Rajesh,[edit source]

I am glad that you all have responded to my blog-post/mail. Anticipating your permission I copied the text from blog &/or mail to the's discussion page. May I take this opportunity to invite once again you and all those interested in the cure of diabetes & well-being of our society to join hands here and scientifically prove the FACT that diabetes is curable.

One can join the discussion in different ways.[edit source]

  1. As an anonymous person:

Visit any page of your choice in by entering its addeess at the address bar of your browser. {for example (eg:) click here to go to Talk/discussion page attached to the GEM_mosquito_control page. Then click the edit link (preferably the last -bottom most- one at the right margin). Then the edit window will open up. Type in or paste your text below the existing text in the white background portion. Once text entry is complete, click the show preview link below if you wish to see how your text will appear in the page. If you feel like adding or modifying some portion, scroll down to the edit window below, add or modify & go to show preview again. If you are satisfied save it by clicking save page link at the left side of the preview link. Before saving you may give a brief summary of the matter added, at the summary window. Instead, if you want to abort the session, click the cancel link on the right side of the preview link. To know more about editing (like paragraphing, adding links, pictures, Headings, bold, italics, bulletts etc, visit Help:Contents page or mail me.

2. As an appropedia user: For this one has to register (FREE) once by clicking the login/register link at the top of the screen and giving the required information (a unique user name, password & e-mail id. The mail id will be useful when one wants to watch any page of one's interest. If the watch link at the top of any page of one's interest is clicked, one will start receiving an alert e-mail containing a link to the page & a summary of the event when ever that page is modified).

  • 2a) Once you register as user, you get two (2) pages in Appropedia's site. they are User:Username and User_talk:Username. Yourself or someone else can create these pages. For creating a page, just search that page. Then these pages will not be found and you will be prompted to create the page. Click that link and there you are!
  • 2b) The Usre page can be used as your Home Page and Talk Page can be used as your discussion forum/platform.
  • 2c) Once you are a user, you can even start Main Pages on topics of your expertise/experience if they are in line with the policies & regulations of the
  • 2d) A User can easily sign the contributions by entering 4 tildas (~) at the end of text. The tildas will be translated as

Shooter 14:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

interesting[edit source]

interesting page. :) Emesee

Thank you[edit source]

Thank you Emesee for the encouraging remark. Georgedappilly

Further proofs of the cure of diabetes[edit source]

  1. On 13th October 2009 I underwent a surgical procedure (TURP). During as well as after the procedure my blood sugar was stable.
  2. A shoe-bite of 11th November 2009 healed by itself in two days.
  • These two facts reinforce the cure of diabetes in Me.

Shooter 16:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

HIS mail[edit source]

Early morning there was a post in my mind's inbox. It had 2 points.

  1. Clarify with CHRIS WATKINS the grabing of my appropedia page on diabetes cure by another user.
  2. Discuss with CHRIS WATKINS the poor participation of Physicians in the discussion on diabetes cure.

Hi Chris[edit source]

A very strange development is noticed in the page on diabetes cure. The TOTAL work is claimed by another User. Please see green b/g below there ... ... Based on work by Kristof Van der Poorten and anonymous users of Appropedi.

Do you think that this is a fair deal? Even if he/she has contributed anything to this page he/she should have been generous enough to (at least) include my name also there.

Could you please throw some light on the procedure to add my name there as a contributor (not as anonymous). What is the procedure for that? Is there anything to be done from my end? (DID I FALL IN A FERAMON TRAP?)

To clarify, there were no bad intentions by anyone. That automated attribution notice in the footer is just not very sophisticated, and it doesn't know who is the main editor. The poor choice of words seems to imply that the last editor was not the main editor, when really it should imply nothing either way. Anyway, it should be fixed temporarily.
I'll talk with Lonny and see if we can reword it. Probably it should say something of the form: "This page was last modified (time/date) by Kristof. Other editors include Wati, George and Mary." How does that sound?
By the way, no need to apologize for asking questions - always happy to help. --Chriswaterguy

Thank you Chris[edit source]

Thank you very much Chris for clarifying things to such an extent. Now every thing is clear & fine.

Poor participation[edit source]

The participation of Physicians in the discussion here on diabetes cure is very poor. Whatever is there is mostly pessimistic (as given above).

  1. The whole world believes that diabetes is incurable.
  2. Until somebody conduct a large scale study & prove otherwise, all will continue to believe so even if they become diabetic. I have seen several diabetics finding pleasure in ascertaining that diabetes is incurable!
  3. There was a time the whole world belived that earth was a FLAT DISC.
  4. There was a time the whole world belived that Earth was stationary.
  5. There was a time the whole world belived that all the celestial bodies (sun, moon,stars,...) are revolving around the earth.
  6. There was a time the whole world belived that sun & moon are flat discs.
  7. There was a time the whole world belived that stars are much smaller than moon.
  8. There was a time the whole world belived that digestion of food was taking place in the mouth.
  9. There was a time the whole world belived that there is no male & female parts in plant kingdom (to be precise in flowers).
  10. There was a time the whole world belived that plant reproduction was asexual.
  11. There was a time all professors were teaching that these things were so.
  12. Whoever came foreward with findings challenging these had been branded as foolish, mad etc. until the society grew to his/her intellectual level.
  13. Presently all Health & Medical (educational) institutions teach that Diabetes is INCURABLE!
  14. Probably (Deo Volente/Insa Allah) our grandchildren may have the fortune to be taught the right thing that DIABETES IS CURABLE.

Hi George,
It's very hard to get medical people to participate in a specific discussion online, including on a wiki. But you've got the article there, online, so people have seen it. The footer says "This page has been accessed 1,583 times." which is promising.
Also, when they say it's incurable, perhaps their medical definition would class your experience as successful ongoing treatment? After all, if you changed to your old unhealthy diet, you'd find the diabetes has not disappeared. I don't know - just speculating. This doesn't change the value of your successful treatment, but it's worth keeping in mind when reading about other treatments and management of the condition. Some people do live well with diabetes, especially if they eat a lot of low glycemic index foods such as legumes and sweet potatoes. (See Wikipedia: Glycemic index #Glycemic index of foods - if you're not familiar with it, you might find it useful. You can use Google and find more detailed lists of foods with their glycemic index).
Having said all that - to teach people that "diabetes is incurable" is to tell them they have no power to fix it, which is not true at all - as you've shown. I much prefer the way you have taken action and achieved results!
By the way, I was wondering about some kind of notice to put at the top of the page. Because it's in the mainspace, but very much focused on your experience, including your thanks to God. But instead I moved it to Diabetes mellitus cured - George's experience - the same way that project pages here mention the specifics of who or where. Hope that's okay. Another page on diabetes should at some point discuss all sides of this illness and the ways of treating it, but it makes sense to keep your page intact with the details of your experience. Does that sound fair?
Wishing you continue good health! --Chriswaterguy 08:33, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Exercise?[edit source]

George, I'm curious whether you are a very physically active person, and whether your doctor told you to exercise more. I understand that exercise and daily activity have a big impact on the way our body metabolizes sugar, and can help avoid the prevention and control of Type 2 diabetes. --Chriswaterguy 23:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

No[edit source]

Hi Chris, Very glad about your curiosity. My wife's most frequent complaint is that I spend most of my time sitting on a chair reading ... . My policy is "DO IT WHILE YOU DO IT". While reading, I sit quiet & relaxed. I go to bed with an empty mind, spend time in court yard - watering garden plants etc etc. To any destination around 1-2 kilometers (approximately a mile) I prefer walking, provided luggage is less.

My doctor did not tell me to exercise more & I did not do more either.

Your understanding about the relation between exercise & sugar metabolism is very much correct. But what I have told is about CURE and not about control of Type 2 diabetes. As far as control is concerned, you as well as others are right. But nobody has ever cured diabetes (be it type 1 or 2) with exercise &/or food swapping with low glysaemic value diet.

Hope I am clear. If not, please do ask. I will be glad to explain. Shooter 16:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Why no test results these months?[edit source]

Have you stoped reporting your blood test results?

Contact George for more specifics?[edit source]

George, How can I contact you to get more information on your journey to your diabetes cure? I am curious to see if I too can 'cure' my high blood sugar using your method. I am unclear how use the Appropedia talk pages. Can you just email me at

Thank you and God Bless. JanatheHat

Hi JanatheHat Here is George[edit source]

Let us discuss here. This page is for that and it will be more productive. It is surprising that after a long time today I felt like checking the mails and found your edit! This is how we can use the talk page. If this page is in your watch list you will receive email notification from Approoedia with a link to these lines.

Adding four tildas ( "Shooter (talk) 18:39, 1 November 2021 (UTC)") at the end of text is signing with date, time etc as seen below.

Wish you a speedy cure. May God Bless you. Shooter (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Appropriateness of Bible Quotes[edit source]

I am curious what the usefulness of Bible Quotes is to this article. Is there a Appropedia policy regarding the use of religious materials on the page? Munimortal 13:01, 24 March 2011 (PST)

There's no explicit policy, but there probably should be one. My own feeling is that if someone has a particular perspective, it's ok to mention that; or if an organization is faith-based, it's ok to explain that aspect as part of the background. For personal projects/experience/research, then I feel it's appropriate if someone wants to put it in their background section, but not as a major focus of the article. And if someone wants to put something in their userspace, they would have more leeway to write what they want.
If we go with that policy, I think this page will need to be edited, with some of the religious material removed or moved to George's userspace, and I trust that George will understand this. How does that sound? --Chriswaterguy 17:43, 3 April 2011 (PDT)
What is the religion of Appropedia? If there is none, then irrelevant Bible quotes (or irrelevant quotes from any religious text) should not be in article space. I see no evidence that any particular supernatural being had anything to do with the results claimed. Would it be possible for Hindus or Muslims or atheists to be "cured" of diabetes? Or is the "cure" only available to followers of a particular sect of Christianity? The followers of many contradictory religions make miraculous claims, suggesting that if religion is having any effect, it isn't due to the doctrinal payload of a particular religion. Unless all but one religion is lying. --Teratornis 18:34, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
Please keep this a discussion of what belongs on Appropedia main article spaces and not a religious debate. I think it makes a lot of sense to move the religious parts directly relevant to George, to George's userspace. We also need to have a clear policy that is openly discussed... hopefully without attacks on religion. Teratornis and Chris probably know the best page to carry on that discussion. George, thank you for your continued contributions and for helping us to find the best course of action that couples personal beliefs on user pages and the scientific findings, methods and procedures, criteria, materials, background, and general how to in the article spaces.
Thanks, --Lonny 23:01, 19 April 2011 (PDT)
I have also similar feelings about the inappropriate mentioning of in this forum. And I doubt that one persons diary is sufficient as basis for a medical article. However it is of course nice that George seems to becoming better. --Yeahvle 02:18, 21 June 2011 (PDT)

On Bible quotes there[edit source]

Hi Chris, Lonny,.....

Thank you very much for pointing out the difference of opinion on appropriateness of Bible quotes here. I have no intentions to use the Appropedia space for religious propaganda.

I didn't know about the objections raised through the talk page because there were no email alerts from there for quite some time now. Having known, I am modifying the section.

It is true that I wanted to express my gratitude in public for having made me think differently & leave the beaten track. That is why that section title was chosen. The sentences of the body of that section were to be seen as quotations from a book that has the maximum number of copies printed ever in human history. More over it was felt that those are the sentences that could be framed in the most precise form to express the ideas in my mind. I could not make sentences crispier than these to convey those ideas. The links are given to ascertain the genuineness of the source and text.

It is felt that as much as I am happy, you also might be happy about the popularity of the page. Now a Google search of the words LONG WHEAT brings title of this page as the FIRST of the 85,400,000 results. It literally surprised me. I had never even dreamt about things going to this proportion.

Noticing this popularity I was thinking of seeking your valuable opinion on launching a pilot project to cure persons who are in very advanced stages of the disease - viz. Diabetes. I have no idea about what all are to be done and how to go about.

The findings of Dr. Roy Taylor of the Newcastle University, UK have added trustworthiness to the contents of the page.

Thank you Chris, Lonny, Munimortal, Teratornis & Yeahvle.

Shooter 06:41, 19 August 2011 (PDT)

User:Yeahvle[edit source]

I understand that you find bible quotes very well written, but still, you have got so much quotes and irrelevant information in your article that I find extremely difficult to read the facts, and cant seem to follow the chronological events, because they are so scattered and all over the place. I do not need to read quotes about what scientists thought about trips to the moon, or said about unrelated things. Your article is about Diabetes mellitus and long wheat, and try as hard as possible to focus on that topic. And try to write an abstract at the top of the page, that summarize the article and its results, that would help to get more understanding from other readers.
And I would really like to know how you interpret the lab results from january and february of 2007 as compared to the latest results? What was your diet at that time? --Yeahvle 00:38, 21 August 2011 (PDT)

Hi Yeahvle,

  • Thank you for alerting me on the inappropriate arrangement & content selection as well as vagueness of the article. I value your learned, experienced & expert suggestions. No efforts will be spared in implementing your view on the construction of the article.

  1. Totally excluded all food items of which sugar is a component (coffee, tea, cool drinks, snacks, biscuits, chocolates, toffees etc.)
  2. Discontinued taking fruits (including jack fruit, mango, plantain, banana, papaya (alias papaw or pawpaw), custard apple etc which are very commonly available in plenty in Kerala).
  3. Breakfast and dinner were substituted with long-wheat kanji & appropriate side dishes. (Kanji was a typical staple food of Kerala. Generally it is prepared using Rice.) To make the food supplement, take the required amount of the whole grain Long Wheat, boil it in as much volume of water as six times the grain till the grains are sufficiently cooked. Unbroken long-wheat takes ½ an hour in pressure cooker to get it sufficiently cooked.
  4. Started walking (at moderate speed) exercise for 1 hour daily.

  • Interpretation of the lab results of January & February 2007 ADE as compared to the latest results of August 2011 ADE:
  1. FBS & PPBS values remaining near the lower limits of the normal range during Jan Feb 2007 is achieved with the above listed regimen. Seeing the normal blood glucose value consistently for two months, I added sugar to my morning & evening coffee. This took the blood glucose reading beyond the upper limit of 140 mg% in just two months, in spite of continuing long wheat mash intake twice daily and avoidance of fruits & starchy vegetables completly.
  2. The latest results of FBS 75 mg% and PPBS 90 mg% are with normal diet, ie NO long wheat mash, no avoidance of fruits, NO avoidance of starchy vegetables, NO avoidance of bakery items and NO avoidance of sugar in coffee.
  3. I am on normal diet from July 2009 onwards.
  4. I have undergone Glucose Tolerance Test (GTT) twice after being declared Diabetic. On both occassions the results were negative. (I have my own doubts about whether the 7 out of 11 volunteers of Dr. Roy Taylor of Newcastle University UK have been subjected to GTT before or after declaring them as CURED of Diabetes since two months according to me is too short a time to get the pancreas repaired.)
  • Hope I have answered the questions. Eager to see your comment on this.

Shooter 01:38, 25 August 2011 (PDT)

Thanks George - glad we could resolve the religion issue. Also glad to hear of your ongoing improved health! --Chriswaterguy 04:32, 1 September 2011 (PDT)

Thanks Chris. Me too glad on several counts! Glad that religion issue is resolved and more over on your positive notes. I am able to be healthy appropriate to the age by the grace of GOD and more over on your positive notes.

Shooter 01:58, 2 September 2011 (PDT)

Sorry Chris that an appropriate place could not be located in Chriswaterguy's page to paste that message.

Shooter 02:09, 2 September 2011 (PDT)


Dear Georgedappilly - I've read this page with interest. I am particularly interested in following a diet that will cure my type 2 diabetes. Could you provide information that lays out a viable regiment of foods and drinks, frequency of eating/drinking, duration, measurements, food/drink nutrition facts - guidelines/restrictions. In other words, could you provide a "detailed" how-to, which specifies: duration(s), frequency, food/drink types and allowance?

P.S. I "get" the scriptures and the history lessons that you cited. They simply stated the truth and unfortunately - the Truth offends some people.

Dear NickV[edit source]

You have posed a difficult question. Food & food habits varies from country to country, region to region, sect to sect and also person to person. So I need to know lot more(about you) and learn about those facts before I answer the question. If you are a diabetic and want to get cured by harnessing this, I may need to know the patient's age, present level of illness (FBS, PPBS, HbA1C), duration of being Diabetic etc. also so that I can monitor the progress/improvement which will give me some pleasure in return.

On the other hand if your interest to know more about this and probably to UTILIZE it for the benefit of humanity by taking up further studies and/or proving it scientifically using CONTROL POPULATION, DOUBLE BLIND PLACEBO etc so that this will be acceptable to SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, we will discuss here itself so that it can be viewed by others also.

Shooter 06:21, 27 August 2012 (PDT) Shooter 09:32, 26 August 2012 (PDT)

Problem uploading & displaying new version of an image[edit source]

This problem I had encountered last year also. Then I uploaded the new version of the image in another unique name & displayed. Now same problem repeated. What happens is that when I upload a new version, the previous version appear in the place where the "CURRENT" one is to appear in the file history.

Please have a look at and HELP.

Shooter 09:33, 4 May 2013 (PDT)

People mistake me for a Long Wheat promoter[edit source]

  • It is felt that many people mistake me for a Long Wheat cultivator, farmer, trader or researcher. They think that I am cunningly trying to promote the prospects of Long Wheat by misleading Diabetic patients, pretending to have cured Diabetes which is considered by modern science and medicine people as a syndrome & (hence) incurable. I pity them and feel that it is already explained in a book written twenty centuries ago; passage is there.

Shooter 07:44, 10 November 2013 (PST)

Where are the Likes etc?[edit source]

Can somebody from Admin or else clarify what happened to the 100+ Likes by Facebook users & 15+ Public recommendations of Google+ users?

Shooter (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2013 (PST)

Hi George![edit source]

The likes are based upon the number of people that have shared your page on Facebook. Many/most of those shares are private so you won't know who posted it, but it does show the number of shares. That said, currently Appropedia is not showing those number, but we plan to show them again soon.
Thank you and let me know if that does not answer your question.
--Lonny (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2013 (PST)

Hi Respected Mr. Lonny![edit source]

Sorry to have disturbed a busy person like you.

You answered my question beyond my expectation/requirement.

Thank you.

Shooter (talk) 23:40, 27 November 2013 (PST)

Dear George Sir,[edit source]

I am Selvakumar 48 years old from Chennai. I am very much glad that you have found out a way and being cured. Your sincere and kindness to share this with others is really great. For the past one month I have been searching remedial aspects for the Diabetics in the net. Now I got the hope, after reading your Article. Recently, I have been diagnosed with Diabetes and found that FBS 240, PPBS 329. I am taking tab from12-Oct-2013 Glimepiride 1 mg 1-0-1 , Walaphage 500 mg 1-0-1. However, 29-Oct-13 onwards, I went for a second opinion where Dr. reduced dosage as Glimepiride 1 mg 0.5-0-0 , Walaphage 500 mg 1-0-1 which I am taking now. Immediately after reading your article I have started taking Long Wheat Mash (LWMDR). I need some clarification and guidance for the cure. My e mail I.D. Please send me your e mail ID, so as to enable me to send all the details of my health history. (16 Nov 2013)

Dear Selvakumar,[edit source]

Thank you for reading this article & responding. FBS 240 & PPBS 329 are very high.
I have noted your email ID. I shall use it when required. If you do not have anything very personal, private & :confidential why to go for email? More over email is not as confidential as many people think. If you look at the :advertisements on the sides of your email page, you will understand it.
As soon as you make an entry here, I will get a detailed email. Any Appropedia user will get such emails if the :WATCH option is activated for this page. If you have not activated WATCH option & included this article in the list :of articles to be watched, please do that.
Wish you a speedy recovery. Please feel free to ask me any related question; I am glad to answer.

Shooter 21:38, 17 November 2013 (PST) _________________________________________________________________________________

Dear George Sir,[edit source]

Seen your favorable reply. Thank you. I don’t mind in posting my details in the forum except some very personal. However, I find some difficulty in posting a message. I have moderate knowledge in computer. Initially, I red one page which contained discussion between some friends having Diabetics and You. After that I have forgotten how I navigated to that page. Hence, I have posted my message in discussion page were some Dr’s having discussion with you. If you send me your email It will be easy to send my health history which is in excel format. I find it difficult to paste the table here.

Following is my Health History.

1. On 30-Sep-2010 I have been diagnosed with Diabetic FBS = 134, PPBS = 174, TGL=199. Since, it is a ordinary Local clinic (near my residence), I have not been advised properly and medicine prescribed for FAT only, Topid 0-0-1 which I did not consumed. I was ignorant, lack of awareness in health care and was busy with my routine.

2. Then on 15-Mar-2011, I felt some Burning Sensation in my Left Leg and Slight Numbness all over Left thigh and leg. I approached same Local Clinic. Blood tested and found FBS = 108, PPBS = 129. Also done Arterial Doppler Study and ultra sound scan to monitor blood flow in legs. Dr advised me that Diabetics is in border stage and can be reversed with regard to burning sensation, he advised me to stop smoking. Hence, started walking and followed diet control for two month. But friends said that the clinic results are not reliable and precise.

3. After two years. The burning sensation was there in left leg and also in the toe- thumb (side portion) where previously only numbness felt. On 3-Oct-2013, I voluntarily went to a private Lab named PARMS and tested my blood then received result as FBS = 240, PPBS = 329. As, I don’t like taking medicine; I took following measures with appropriate time gap. 1) Daily walking. 2) Drank one litter plain water at early morning in empty stomach 3) Two teaspoon Karela Jamun Juice 4) Fenugreek and Coriander Seeds Powder. 5) Full diet control. As a result I felt my left leg thumb has become very normal, but felt hungry and tired due to poor eating.

4. In view of my friends advise, I started taking medicine from 12-Oct-2013, Glimepiride 1 mg 1-0-1, Walaphage 500 mg 1-0-1 prescribed by the same Local Clinic. Stopped all the above measures except walking and began to take four meal patterns in moderate quantity. As a result felt hungry and tired all the day may be due to medicine effect or poor eating. I bought a Gluco Meter (One Touch-Select) self tested myself and found that before Break fast FBS = 97 on 21-Oct-2013.

5. As the Local clinic is not reliable, I went for a second opinion to Dr.Mohans on 29-Oct-2013, where all the following tests have been done.

FBS = 89, PPBS = 142, HbA1c = 6.2, BP= 110/70, Serum Cholesterol = 149, TGL = 159, HDL = , 27, LDL = 90, VLDL = 32, Height 160.50 Cms, Weight 73.40 Kgs,

Serum C – PEPTIDE ASSAY Fasting C- Peptide = 1.1 pmol/ml (Fairly good). Stimulated C- Peptide = 3.8 pmol/ml (Fairly good). (C-Peptide assay is an Index of Pancreatic Beta Cell Function)

Diabetic Kidney Test = 29 mg ( reference value below 30 mg)

Doppler Study = Normal Chest x-ray = Normal Eye = Blurred vision and Seeing Bending lines in left eye since 10 years Foot Sensation = Deformity, High Risk, Recommendation = Use Therapeutic Footwere and Off Loading Mother (Late) was Diabetic. Associated Illness = No Complication Dyslipidemia Dental= one removed 5 years back and one Deep caries and two with mobility

6. After all test as above the medicine were prescribed by reducing the dosage as under Glimepiride 1 mg = 0.5-0-0, Walaphage 500 mg = 1-0-1 Nervup Forte 0-0-1 (Vitamin for Nerve) The Doctor after observing the result of HbA1c as 6.2 said that the previous test done in private Lab PARMS on 3-Oct-13, as FBS = 240, PPBS = 329 is on doubt, because the three month average is good.

7. from 15-Nov-2013 onwards I have myself reduced the dosage of intake of tablets as follows. Glimepiride 1 mg = 0.5-0-0, Walaphage 500 mg = 0.5-0-0.5,

From 13-Nov-2013 onwards Started eating Long Wheat Mash for both Break fast and Dinner

I also request you to clarify following doubts:-

a) Can I take side dish like Vegetable Porial, Curries, Kozhambu, Chatney, along with Long Wheat Mash. b) Can I add vegetables in Long Wheat Mash which cooking it. c) Can I soak the Long Wheat in water in advance., in the night for next day cooking. d) If the same is put in Mixi , it is very easy to eat. Is it OK. e) I am not regularly take Non veg. But occasionally used to take Fish or Chicken. Please advise. f) Can I take Karela Jamun Juice or Insulin Plant leaves before taking Breakfast. g) Is there a chance for a full cure. If so how long it will take for the cure or some control. h) Please advise on the dosage of the tablets and also for stopping the same. Regards,


Dear Selvakumar,[edit source]

Thank you for the desire to get Diabetes cured & the interest in LWMDR. Appropedia (or probably any wiky site's) syntax seems to be simple, for me. Here tables also are created by plain-text codes. For example:

Date FBS PPBS HbA1c TGL Medicine Event details
30-Sep-2010 134 174 199 Tab Topid 0-0-1 Diabetes detected.
15-Mar-2011 108 129 Burning Sensation Left Leg & Slight Numbness Left thigh and leg.

Arterial Doppler Study and ultra sound scan

3-Oct-2013 240 329 1) Daily walking. 2) 1 litter water therapy 3) Karela Jamun Juice

4) Fenugreek & Coriander Seeds Powder. 5) Full diet control.

12-Oct-2013, Glimepiride 1 mg 1-0-1, Walaphage 500 mg 1-0-1 Glimepiride 1 mg 1-0-1, Walaphage 500 mg 1-0-1 Medicines started
29-Oct-2013 89 142 6.2 159 Glimepiride 1mg 0.5-0-0,

Walaphage 500mg 1-0-1 Nervup Forte 0-0-1


I have understood all that you described in detail. As far as the questions are concerned, my explanations are:

  • a) Already answered in the article. Please read the article again.
  • b) Already answered in the article. If you want to do some experiment, well & good. All the best.
  • c) Already answered in the article. Please read the article again.
  • d) Already answered in the article. Please read the article again.
  • e) Already answered in the article. Please read the article again.
  • f) I have not taken any such thing. If you want to do some experiment, well & good. All the best.
  • g) What did you feel after reading my article?
  • h) Dosage of tablet you may ask your physisian or you can decide yourself. I am not legally qualified to prescribe tablets/medicines. If you keep reporting the blood sugar values (FBS, PPBS & HbA1c) regularly, I may guide/advice you at appropriate times.

Shooter (talk) 08:16, 27 November 2013 (PST) ______________________________________________________________________________

Dear George Sir,[edit source]

Thank you for the response and extremely sorry for the delayed reply. I am sorry, due to my official work, I was not in station and could not reply you immediately. As you said, I have once again red the Article and understood further more. Immediately after I was diagnosed with Diabetes, I searched for a way for total cure, but I did not found any. I can say after reading your Article, I am now with full confidence in curing. But need your guidance. As I have to frequently go on my official tour. I find some irregularity in taking Long Wheat Mash. This is my only problem. I will find a solution for this. I will keep reporting the FBS, PPBS & HbA1c values regularly.


Good[edit source]

Okay dear Selvakumar. That is fine. Time & tide waits for none!

Shooter (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2013 (PST)

Hello Jayamru[edit source]

Thank you for reading my article & for the interest to go for a natural cure.

This grain (Long Wheat) is available in many parts of my country (India). Most of the details gathered in connection with Long Wheat (like names in different languages, name in different states, photographs etc are in the article you read. I regret to tell you that there is very little more information with me in connection with its availability. I am placing those details published by members of HealthUnlocked. Hope it may be of use to you. Please feel free to ask more.

Regarding availability please follow these links & the links linked there:

Aurangabad Availability Naqsh Oh My My..and I searched the world for Long wheat before finding it in sholapur and than in Pune. I have relatives in Aurangabad which would make it much easier for me. Please do give me the address of the shop in Aurangabad where I can buy this. It is called jod gehunlaal gehun or khapli gehun out there ....waiting for your reply. Thx.


GUJARAT CROSS BREED " avrs: In Gujarat Lamba Gehu ( Long Wheat) verity is called "BLIYA"

HYDERABAD AVAILABILITY KERALA AVAILABILITY KOLKOTTA AVAILABILITY An ex-colleague from Calcutta (Mr S K Banerjee) said "Try at SPENCER in BASEMENT of SOUTH CITY MALL, near JADAVPUR uNIVERSITY, Prince Anwar Shah Road, Kolkotha". KOLKOTTA AVAILABILITY Kzm Calcutta Iyer Punjab waala, lambi waali ghanhu MUMBAY AVAILABILITY MUMBAY AVAILABILITY MUMBAY " anilgupta101 Hindi speaking/Rajasthani Traders in Pune also call it Jad Gehun. My sister and her whole group of friends could not source Khapli Gehun in Delhi. They had to get from Pune. Also Mr. Kashmir Singh could not get it in Punjab. We need more inputs from North based members. I understand it grows mostly in South Maharashtra and now started in Gujarat. Pls ask your suppliers where they source it from and if new crop came. Right now old stock is over in Pune and there is no new stock yet as per my suppliers. " norreal zeusinus: I too think it is between Jau and jawar. (Jau is probably barley, an item we mix with genetically manipulated wheat. Jowar is Oat). Mixing hau with wheat atta reduces its starchiness. Further, before eating I make it crisp in the oven. Could it be a variety of wheat? " gondekarbd Yes I also find same wheat as called jaou in Mumbai kashigari The shopkeeper of shop where i purchased long wheat, when asked about it's name, he said it is called as makka gehun(check with this name in your area). Whatever i purchased matches with those grains shown in pic of SG. And i purchased it in a store where one of our community member purchases(In hyderabad). So i am confident.

PUNE AVAILABILITY at above Mumb thread anilgupta101 Shah Mansukhlal ChuniLal, 1921 Blundel Road/Shivaji Market Road, Camp, Pune. Tel 020 26340470. If you come to centre Street Camp, Pune any one will guide you to Mansukhlal Dry Fruits Merchant, very famous. I am enjoying the LW as it is ery tasty and healthy. Also lost weight. Cheers, good luck and may God help and bless you. PUNE AVAILABILITY Pune City Vithal Gangaram, Kasturi Chowk, Near Ranka Jewellers, Ganesh peth is a regular stockist- His tel nos are 020 26386428/26. He sells for Rs60/kg and will grind on order- flour @ Rs 65/kg. Hindi speaking Rajastani traders in Pune Pune Availability Naqsh Oh My My..and I searched the world for Long wheat before finding it in sholapur and than in Pune. I have relatives in Aurangabad which would make it much easier for me. Please do give me the address of the shop in Aurangabad where I can buy this. It is called jod gehunlaal gehun or khapli gehun out there ....waiting for your reply. Thx.



Shooter (talk) 03:30, 31 May 2014 (PDT)

Thank you for the insight[edit source]

Hello Mr. George, Thank you for sharing your experience. I am a diabetic for last 4 years. I plan to follow your diet regimen and will post the results soon.

A lot of misery can be avoided if only this reaches to each Diabetic clinic in our country.


You are welcome[edit source]

Thank you very much Mr. D Sathyan for the optimistic approach. I wish you a speedy cure. Please keep me informed of the progress; it may help avoid pitfalls.

Watching users[edit source]

Is there a way to find out the watching users of an article?

Shooter (talk) 08:21, 7 July 2015 (PDT)

Want your suggestion on diabetic curing using LWMDR[edit source]

Dear George

i have gone through your article. It is very informative. My wife is diabetic from last 7 years and she is following LWMDR from Last one year. Want your suggestion and guidance shall i submit the details ? - Kumar

Hi Dear Kumar[edit source]

Thank you for going through my article & for reporting that it informative. More glad to know that she is following LWMDR for one year now. I am only happy to help you. Yes the details are needed.

If not signed up as a member, it is good to become one. Then you can activate the watch link on the top line of the window & begin to receive email alert on any modifications of the page opened in the window. Similarly one can watch any page, including the main page of this talk page also.

A member can sign the edit simply by including a line at the bottom with four tildas (symbol ~) as a word (that means without spaces). The four tildas will be translated as below with your user name or display name specified by you.

Shooter (talk) 09:07, 17 July 2015 (PDT)

Ramani Srikiran[edit source]

Ramani (talk) 10:08, 29 July 2015 (PDT)Good Morning Sir,

Hope you are doing well.

We checked your article about 'Diabetes Cure' and need your help in treating our 6-year-old son who has diabetes since one year. Initially doctors confirmed this to be Type-I and he was on insulin for 2 weeks. He was under naturopathy treatment for the last 11 months. His levels are well under control with HBA1c of 5.6 when checked about a week back.

We want this to be completely cured without any food restrictions. We would like to get in touch with you to discuss on this further. Can you provide your contact number and the best time to call you. Please accept our friend request.

Thank you in advance.

Regards, Ramani Srikiran

Hi Ramani Srikiran
Sorry to hear that your child contracted Diabetes at such a young age. Glad that now HbA1c is only 5.6% with your efforts. Earlier how much was it?
Have you checked his Serum Insulin value? If yes, how much was it? If no, please get it tested at an accredited or reliably good lab & let me know the result. These two parameters together is very useful in judging the status of the illness. Hope this page is in your watch list so that you will receive an alert email when I write here.
Wish him a speedy cure.
Usually I do not share my phone number or email ID here & understand that it is not permitted here. If it is permitted, you may please give yours & I shall use it & make the opening contact so that you can use it further. Problems with phone calls are (1) accent incompatibility (2) noise. Any how you can give a try.
George E M Shooter (talk) 09:29, 2 August 2015 (PDT)

Hi Sir,

Thank you so much for your response and patience. Initially his HBA1C was around 11.5 i.e when it was diagnosed in August 2014. We did not check his Serum Insulin levels and will get it tested soon. Here is my contact number - 9XXXXXXXX. Kindly note it down. We will keep you posted on the test result. Thank you again.

Best regards, Ramani Shashank.

Hi Ramani Srikiran (or Shashank?),
Thank you for the reply. The patient being a child, it is felt that the food supplement given by algorithm two may be better than one. algorithm three saves much time & fuel.
Thank you for providing your contact number. As I get many numbers, find difficult to store. More over most patients stop reporting once they find that things are moving towards better. I will call you now; please note down my number & remind me the name when you call me.
When you call, keep ringing so that I get time to go near the phone & pick it.
My hand set is a bit old & unstable. Hence call may get dropped during conversation. In that case call again after some time.
George E M Shooter (talk) 00:50, 5 August 2015 (PDT)

Hi Sir,

Thank you very much for taking out time. We will get back to you with the test results.

Warm regards, Ramani Shashank.

Hi Ramani Shashank?,
Patient being a child, change from current diet to LWMDR gradually. When you begin LWMDR, start with 20-25% or suitable quantity of LW dose & prepare mash. Fill the remaining portion with current food. Then every second, third or fourth day increase LW quantity & decrease current item till specified/required quantity of LW is reached.
Write down all details of diet, test results, lab reports, patient's reaction & your observations. This will help later reviews.
Hope he is fine. Shooter (talk) 08:37, 9 August 2015 (PDT)

Want your suggestion on diabetic curing using LWMDR[edit source]

Kumar 1965 (talk) 23:36, 29 July 2015 (PDT) Kumar

Dear George Sir

Thank you very much for responding. I am posting the details. I am very glad that you are helping the people in curing diabetic, I

see very rarely such persons

Following are the details as on 29th July 2015

How it started

Vision problem:

Some time in Jan 2007 wife noticed some vision problem in certain angle in one of the eye. When we went to Doctor they examined and all tests were done and observed that that portion of vision is last permanently due to damage to the nerve, could be due to blood clot. MRI Scan was also taken and Dr. advised to start Ecosprin 150 mg (0-1-0) and started this medication from 30th March 2007. This medicine is still continued dosage reduced to Ecosprin 75mg from 31/5/2014. This medicine is continuing as on Date.


Parallely head ache also started from Jan 2007. MRI Scan did not reveal anything; Dr. said it is Migraine head ache. Medication started for that. Still


Some Variation seen hence started the medication. Still continuing with low dosage


Diabetic got identified some time in Feb 2008. Following medication started

PIOMED – M15 (1-0-0) From 30/3/2008 To 4/9/2012

GLUCORYL – M1 (1-0-0) From 5/9/2012 To 6/1/2014

BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) From 6/1/2014 Till date

ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1) From 31/5/2014 To 12/10/2014

ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0) From 13/10/2014 Till date (Dosage reduced)

LWMDR with slight salt (1-0-1) (Morning and night) from 14/7/2014 still continuing. 10 days missed from 20/12/14 to 28/12/2014

another 10 days missed from 23/4/2015 to 2/5/2015 since we were on tour. Over and above there are occasional misses due to

functions. Some days Sometimes she notices tiredness (Mostly because of low sugar) after eating it became ok

Other diet followed are in line with your suggestion: No fruit, No Sweets, No Potato and other starchy vegetable.

Daily Diet

Early Morning (6:30 AM) - Coffee with Sugar free Tablet (1No)

Morning (8:30 AM) - Break Fast LWMDR with slight Salt

Mid Morning (11:15 AM) - Sugar less Tea + 2 Marie Light Biscuits

Lunch (1:30 PM) – Rice Item or Chapathi with curry

Evening (5:30) - Coffee with Sugar free Tablet (1No)

Night (8:45 PM) – Dinner LWMDR with slight Salt

There could be some minor variations. Some times (Weekly once0 evening snacks will be there (Fried items like Bajji/Bonda etc)


No special exercise. No walking. She works as a teacher. Generally around 5 hours Standing. 50 Steps 3-4 Times climbing up and

down in school. I am trying to persuade for walking in addition to above but could not succeed

Sugar test details are as given below

Date FBS PPBS RBS HbA1c LAB Medicine Remarks

30-Mar-2008 PIOMED-M15 (1-0-0) Diabetes detected. Medicine Started
20-Mar-2011 98 129 LAB PIOMED-M15 (1-0-0)
26-Aug-2012 142 228 LAB PIOMED-M15 (1-0-0)
5-Sep-2012 GLUCORYL-M1 (1-0-0) Medicine Changed
31-Dec-2012 98 128 7.31 LAB GLUCORYL-M1 (1-0-0)
9-April-2013 87 119 LAB GLUCORYL-M1 (1-0-0)
21-Jul-2013 109 LAB GLUCORYL-M1 (1-0-0)
20-Dec-2013 134 156 6.3 LAB GLUCORYL-M1 (1-0-0)
6-Jan-2014 BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) Medicine Changed
29-Jan-2014 134.2 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1)
17-May-2014 200 186 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1)
25-May-2014 185 212 7.3 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1)
31-May-2014 BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1) Shown to Dr. ISRYL Added, 2 Times/Day
14-Jul-2014 BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1) LWMDR Started
20-Jul-2014 86 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1)
7-Sep-2014 96 110 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1)
21-Sep-2014 102 63 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1)
5-Oct-2014 105 75 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1)
6-Oct-2014 94 127 6.16 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-1)
13-Oct-2014 BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0) Shown to Dr. ISRYL dosage Reduced to 1/day
19-Oct-2014 115 66 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
2-Nov-2014 60 119 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
23-Nov-2014 119 70 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
7-Dec-2014 102 82 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
20-Dec-2014 78 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
4-Jan-2015 112 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
11-Jan-2015 98 59 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
21-Jan-2015 54 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
8-Feb-2015 129 84 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0) Function meal previous night, No LWMDR previous night
15-Feb-2015 82 104 6.4 LAB BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
8-Mar-2015 108 98 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
12-Apr-2015 68 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
19-Apr-2015 111 107 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
3-May-2015 146 141 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0) Previous 10 days did not take LWMDR
11-May-2015 140 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
24-May-2015 135 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
31-May-2015 118 110 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
14-Jun-2015 143 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
21-Jun-2015 135 119 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0) Previous Night jack fruit and mango shake in additon


28-Jun-2015 128 126 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
5-Jul-2015 125 93 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
11-Jul-2015 93 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
12-Jul-2015 116 79 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
19-Jul-2015 118 86 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)
26-Jul-2015 110 76 Self BIGOMET 850mg (1-0-1) + ISRYL 1mg (1-0-0)

My Questions

1) Is there any requirement for Medicine alteration (More towards reduction/low dosage)

2) Is Daily diet ok or needs any modification

3) Exercise whether it require any modification (I could not succeed in making her walk from last 1 year)

4) Is she on right path?

5) Are there any inter relationship b/w Migraine and Diabetic?. She often gets Migraine attack

6) Any other suggestions



Dear Kumar please tell (1) what is the body weight of the patient & (2) how much dry Long Wheat is taken to prepare one meal.
Please stop taking biscuits & artificial sweeteners forthwith.

Kumar 1965 (talk)kumar

Dear George Sir

Her weight is 70Kg. (varies around 66-70 kg) She consumes approximately 5 Kg of Long wheat/month. Approximately 80gms/meal. As usual routine check we have tested her sugar level in laboratory yesterday (9th Aug 2015). Values are as follows

FBS: 110 mg/dl PPBS: 128 mg/dl HBA1c (Glycosylated Hemoglobin): 7.3%

Generally when ever we measure sugar level it shows nearly within limit (u can see the table). Even in the lab report also showing nearly normal. i dont know why HBA1C is increasing. i could see this increase trend after she reduced the dosage of ISRYL 1mg from 2 tab/day to 1 tab/day. We are worried of increasing HBA1C. My wife is also upset. i had given her hope that it will get cured.

Pls advice

Dear Kumar[edit source]

In my observation, the patient has very high diabetes. Over and above that she is taking biscuits, mango, jack fruit etc. Curing or even controlling diabetes is not simple a task. I know only slow & steady process. If you are not ready for that, it is probably better to leave me & LWMDR. HASTE WILL CAUSE WASTE. If you are ready to follow my suggestions, as the next step please upload the latest lab report which showed FBS: 110 mg/dl, PPBS: 128 mg/dl & HBA1c (Glycosylated Hemoglobin): 7.3%. Continue status quo for one week & report FBS - PPBS history. Let us see the trend.
Shooter (talk) 09:29, 13 August 2015 (PDT)

Kumar 1965 (talk) 02:06, 14 August 2015 (PDT)

Dear George Sir. Request not to become angry on us. Myself and my wife definitely wants herself get cured. Definitely myself and my wife is ready for this process. i have gone through your article and started this medicine (LWMDR). I donot want to leave them half the way. Want to continue till it get cured. In between wanted to check with you what we are doing is right and also to know whether any course correction is required. As u know as a common man some time we get scared after seeing the result (especially HBA1c). I will upload the report. I am not sure how to do this, request your help in this also.

After almost one year of she tasted once jack fruit (small piece) and half cup mango shake only once. i am not justifying that, Any way it should not have been done i agree. I wanted to bring to your notice that also.

Hi Kumar,
Me too am a common man only. Use the "Upload a file" link under "tools" on the left margin of this page. Note down the address of the destination page. Insert it where ever required within double square brackets . Shooter (talk) 08:33, 16 August 2015 (PDT)

Kumar 1965 (talk) 00:05, 17 August 2015 (PDT)Kumar

Dear sir

Pls find the lab report. Awaiting your response sir. As a routine check-up I went to Dr. yesterday 16th Aug 2015 he suggested to include ISRYL 1mg 2 times a day instead of 1 time per day. Infact he brought down the dosage 10 months back from 2 times to 1 time/day 3 months after LWMDR started and also some values the PPBS readings were below 70 mg/dl (Ref. PPBS readings dated 21/09/2014, 19/10/2014 )

Kumar 1965 (talk)kumar

Dear Geroge sir

Artificial Sweetener stopped from 17th Aug 2015 Onwards. Request your advice. Also Attaching some more sugar test(self) result

Afternoon readings:

Before Lunch : 91

Lunch: Rice Sambar & Butter milk

1 hour after lunch: 220

2 hours after lunch: 214

4 hours after lunch : 135

Night Readings

Before Dinner: 135

Dinner : LWMDR

1 hour after dinner: 214

what name/brand name are long wheat found in US market[edit source]

Hi George, I really appreciate your effort on putting the details on your experience. i am an young patient, i am willing to try you suggestion with dedication. I went to superstores looking for long wheat, but i could not find; not even the emmer. Is emmer same as long wheat? Is it known as Farro? if you are aware of any brand names found in USA market, please suggest. Thanks. God bless you. Regards kris[edit source]

Comments[edit source]

Please clarify that you're only discussing a cure for type 2 diabetes[edit source]


First, thankyou for sharing your knowledge, ideas, and enthusiasm to decrease suffering and increase health and happiness!

I must ask you please, add a few words to make it clear that you're discussing how to treat and/ cure type 2 diabetes, not type 1. (Perhaps in the 2 paragraphs near the beginning, starting with "Diabetes is seen to be" and "The Author hence...")

I ask this for several reasons, the first being that it could be very tragic if someone (like me) who needs insulin injections to stay alive, were to misunderstand you and decided to stop their medicine. This would injure or kill me fairly quickly.

There are several places you discuss the specifics of what's happening in the blood, etc, and your hypotheses about it, but mostly these do not apply to a type 1 diabetic like me. Some parts overlap and others don't, and it's very interesting but also confusing.

The second reason I'm asking you to please add explicit differentiation between the 2 conditions, is because of the psychological and/ or cognitive challenges which are often present when someone is learning about these subjects. In the 37 years I've been taking insulin, I've developed brain damage among other conditions, but there are also short term symptoms such as memory loss and cognitive impairment which could make it easy for a diabetic reading your article to become confused. The bigger problem, though, is that both the diabetic and their family, etc, are emotionally desperate for hope, answers, "cures", etc. This could make them understandably likely to "jump to conclusions" which might not be appropriate for their circumstances.

Many folks may not know that sadly, no case of "true type 1" diabetes has ever been cured. It would be like growing back an amputated leg. Perhaps as a "miracle", some day, but we need to be clear that this is not the same.

I hope i haven't been disrespectful, and again, i very much celebrate the beautiful gift you are sharing, and I hope it can reach the correct audience and i hope they and you (and all of us) have good health, happiness, prosperity, etc.

Sincerely, Will Will loves stories (talk) 00:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

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