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Weird little - Error! is not a number.[edit | edit source]

On the page CCAT Small Pond Revitalization there appear two little warnings near the top of the page. The errors appear as orange exclamation marks and their hovertext is ""Error!" is not a number." Does anyone know what this is from? --Lonny (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Lonny Fixed! The error was because we're getting the pageview data once a month from Google Analytics and it seems the script that does so failed for some pages. You'll notice that the "impact" field has dissappeared now. It'll appear again once the script re-runs. Cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 19:32, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Got it. Thank you! Lonny (talk) 08:19, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
thanks for fixing that!! Sm-neutron (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Page data[edit | edit source]

Why does the template sometimes provide and impact value and sometimes not? --Joshua Pearce (talk) 19:38, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@J.M.Pearce Hi! The bug is temporary. The data gets updated once a month but this month there were a few errors so some pages aren't displaying their impact. I already fixed the cause of the error and I'll try to re-run the script before the end of the month, cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! Joshua Pearce (talk) 14:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Automatic translations[edit | edit source]

Hi all! I developed a script that is able to translate any wiki page to any language using Google Translate. These translations will be indexed by search engines, making them discoverable by users that search in other languages. This script has the potential to multiply the size, reach and impact of Appropedia! Check out Appropedia:Translations to add your favorite pages to the translation queue! Sophivorus (talk) 15:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Category:Appropedia[edit | edit source]

Hi again! I've done some organization, merging, updates and improvements to pages and categories at Category:Appropedia. Crucially, I archived a lot of pages that haven't changed since 2008-2010 at the new Category:Appropedia archive. The strategy is to archive old pages so that current pages stay visible and updated. This strategy has the great advantage of being sustainable: it's easy to understand and implement, so we can all do it (see Template:Archive). Cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Form for literature reviews[edit | edit source]

@Lonny, J.M.Pearce, Emilio Hi! Following Emilio's suggestion, I created Example literature review to demonstrate the possibilities of the new Template:Form to organize, structure and ease the creation of literature reviews. Check it out! Of course the form, templates and page structure can be modified to suit your needs, and I've devoted some time to the documentation of Template:Form so that you can experiment yourselves, but let me know if you'd like some extra functionality like a new field type or if I can help further. Hope it helps, cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Advice for my first photovoltaic system[edit | edit source]

@Lonny, J.M.Pearce Hi! After reading To Catch the Sun, I want to buy my first photovoltaic system (panels, battery, charge controller, inverter, etc).

My immediate goal is to learn, reduce my carbon footprint, and power a few devices "through the window" (that is, I don't want to tap the houses' electric system because I'm only renting this place until the end of the year). Devices would be my laptop, phone, wifi, TV, a few lamps, and perhaps a washing machine, if the system suffices. However, in the future, I'd like to be able to scale up the system so that I can power my house (when I build it) so I'm investing in an "oversized" charge controller and inverter.

With this in mind, I've been reading and researching some options at my local online marketplace and here is my current setup:

This is my first attempt at building a photovoltaic system and I don't have much background in electricity either, so I'm not very confident. For example, I only recently learned there's a difference between PWM and MPPT controllers and between pure and modified wave inverters, so I worry I may still be missing something important. Do you see any red flags or possible issues I should be aware? Thanks for any advice!! Sophivorus (talk) 21:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, I ended up buying the parts mentioned above except that I got this lead acid battery instead of the lithium ion one. Will share the results when I set it up and hopefully make some Appropedia article about it. Cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Sophivorus! Sorry, I am just seeing this message here. Please let me know if you have more questions. I need to check my settings so it is more clear to me (again) when there is a message directed at me. -Lonny (talk) 03:01, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Empowerment Technologies[edit | edit source]

Learning experiences

Empowerment Technology or ICT is a subject or a lesson to all students specially me.

If you don't know how to understand this subject, it will be difficult. Some people find it challenging to complete all of the ICT tasks or projects. However, as a student, you have a responsibility to all ICT students.

As a student, I am learning a lot about ICT, particularly computers and accounting. We didn't use computers last school year, in short, we didn't have a computer subject, so it's not easy, but if you understand it correctly, it can assist you a lot. I've learnt how to use Microsoft Web, Excel, and even other websites like Piktochart, Change .org, and the one I'm currently using, WordPress. With all of the ICT classes, I can apply it to all of my other projects and use it in my daily life.

ICT, or information and communication technology, can help us comprehend computers, their worth, and what they can do for us. It could be for the better or for the worse, but we should do the correct way since we study and grasp the teachings and values in ICT.

How to list external links[edit | edit source]

Hi! I am editing some pages and I'd like to ask for opinions on how to list external links: Before or after references? I wonder which option could be more useful or make more sense.

See examples here:

Thanks --Irene92 (talk) 00:18, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Irene92, I'd go for the Aquaponics version, simply because the external links tend to be a little more readable than the refs. Philralph (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
@Irene92 I second the Aquaponics version (references after external links). It seems Wikipedia favors the alternative, apparently because they consider external links shouldn't be part of the article. However I think external links should be considered part of Appropedia pages, so again, I favor references after external links. Sophivorus (talk) 12:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Event templates, proposal and request[edit | edit source]

This is mainly something to help with CASwiki pages but might be of interest beyond.

Hi @Sophivorus, I'd like to propose / request a couple of Event templates, similar to the fabulously useful News templates. Similar to those it'd be super useful to be able to use an eventslist type template to display relevant events for localities and (community action, sustainability, etc) topics.

I've redrafted some of the content of International community action events and UK community action events to show how they might display.

So similar to news template, an events template with parameters:

  • Date
  • day or days of the week if applicable (some a whole month, year or decade) - could be automated?
  • (wiki) page link, (red if no article)
  • link (url)
  • source with url as default (only displays if no article)
  • text
  • location
  • keywords

What do you think? Cheers, Philralph (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Philralph Hi! I'm glad you're finding the news templates useful! I just created Template:Event and Template:Eventlist following your specifications and defined a few example events at International community action events#July and UK community action events#July, check it out! A few notes:
  1. I wasn't quite able to add support for multiple dates, so you'll have to pick one date per event for now. However, I was able to include a date-text parameter to control the visible text of the date. You can use that to communicate date ranges. If I figure out how to improve this I will, but I think it's a good start.
  2. I added support for multiple locations (see the template documentation) and copied the solution to Template:News.
  3. I didn't quite understand what you meant when you said that the source should only display if there's no article. Could you clarify that?
I really hope this new template becomes useful. Let me know of any bugs or further requests! Sophivorus (talk) 14:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
@Sophivorus , Hi! Thanks very much for this! Looking forward to testing them out.
  • I imagine we'll still need a separate text parameter, see for example UK_community_action_events#October (2nd event listed), text needs to come after internal link, and before source. Maybe also should be some kind of limit, e.g. on number of words perhaps?
  • re the source, thinking about it, maybe it's fine if it (plus the url) is just optional (as if there's an article that'll include the source). So no need for it to display, but if wanted it can be put in and displayed, and that's fine as well. Hope that makes a bit more sense now!
Philralph (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
@Philralph Hi! I just added the "text" parameter. Regarding the source, does it work ok now? Or does it need some adjustment? Cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 14:45, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
@Sophivorus thanks for that! Yes source ok, no adjustment needed. Could Template:Eventlist display events in chronological order, and so consistent with eg UK community action events? At present displaying in reverse of that, eg see Community action UK#Coming up. Thanks, Philralph (talk) 12:08, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@Philralph Done, cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 13:22, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Available for collaboration[edit | edit source]

Hello, sorry I have not been active for a couple of years. Just wanted to say Hi again, and offer collaboration on any topics related to natural building and forest gardening, etc. Moribund (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Moribund! Great to see you. --Lonny (talk) 02:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Citizen Action Networks near you, map[edit | edit source]

Hi @Sophivorus, I've set up a map on Citizen Action Networks near you, using your Community gardens map as a model. Does it all look OK? Will the form work OK or does anything else need to be set up? Thanks, Philralph (talk) 09:27, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

@Philralph I tested it and looked at the code and everything seems fine, well done! Sophivorus (talk) 13:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Math (LaTex) rendering error[edit | edit source]

Hi All,

The site updates have been incredible! So much fun and gorgeous new functionality. Quick issue on some math rendering. See Solar_chimney#Air_Velocity for an example.

Thanks, --Lonny (talk) 02:18, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

@Lonny Fixed! Some weeks ago I changed Extension:SimpleMathJax for Extension:Math due to performance reasons (the former slowed down the site considerably). It seems the new Extension:Math doesn't support the use of the middle dot · and requires \cdot instead, so I just searched and replaced all instances of the middle dot. I also just created Category:Pages with math errors to track and fix future math syntax errors. Cheers! PS, thanks for noticing and appreciating all the new features and improvements. :-) Sophivorus (talk) 17:13, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Project Data issue[edit | edit source]

Hi All, I wanted to point out that the project data for Redwood Discovery Museum inspirograph is wrong. I am not sure if this was bot generated or human generated, but it was not added by the original team. I am pointing it out here for it to be corrected, but more so to make sure that there isn't a similar issue happening with other generated project data boxes on other pages. THANKS! --Lonny (talk) 02:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

@Lonny Hi! It seems to have been a human error, hopefully a one-off mistake. I just fixed it, cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 16:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Can we embed maps?[edit | edit source]

Hi @Sophivorus and @Emilio, yesterday I came across a fantastic mapping project covering "Ibero-America". I've put a couple of links on El Salvador community action#Maps and Argentina community action#Maps (map for Buenos Aires). These maps seem fantastically relevant to CASwiki city and country pages, and it'd be brilliant if we could embed them on our city and country pages. Maps and data appear to be all creative commons licensed. More here: https://www.civics.cc/en/acerca It's also highly relevant to a couple of maps and related wiki pages I'm currently developing: Citizen Action Networks near you and CAN support map. More on that later. Cheers Philralph (talk) 08:58, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Philralph Hi, yes! I just created Widget:Civics for you, check out the documentation there and the examples at El Salvador community action#Maps and Argentina community action#Maps. Unfortunately, it seems Civics doesn't offer an "embed URL", that is, a URL that contains JUST the map, so the menu and other interface elements are embedded too. Still, it may be useful. Let me know! Sophivorus (talk) 19:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
@Sophivorus, Fantastic! this feels like a really important development for CASwiki. Many thanks! Cheers. Philralph (talk) 07:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
@Sophivorus, Hi, following on from this, I'm wanting to link to (and sort of integrate) these maps from within Citizen Action Networks near you#CAN map. I've done this with one example "Neighborhood initiatives, Madrid", entering the link as a external one. Is there a better way of doing this? A separate parameter for internal links? Something like this might this help encourage cross over and more sharing of content? Thanks, Philralph (talk) 14:45, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Sophivorus, if there's no problem putting internal links (but as ext. ones) in the (ext) link parameter, I'm happy to carry on doing this. There'll be about 20 pages initially. Philralph (talk) 11:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
@Philralph Hi! I think using external links is fine, especially if it's only a few. Cheers! Sophivorus (talk) 15:16, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Development of Citizen Action Networks maps[edit | edit source]

Hi @Sophivorus, Citizen Action Networks near you currently has a global CAN map. Due to the potentially very large numbers, but also to display the info in a more helpful way, I've been thinking for some time about ways of disaggregating the map and the data.

To start with I'm thinking of setting up separate maps using tabs for broad areas similar to those on Community action#Near you, but eventually might want to move to something like city regions similar to how maps are presented on Civics eg Argentina_community_action#Maps. If I set this up with sub pages eg Citizen Action Networks near you/UK/data, etc would it then be possible to combine again to display a global map or for map for larger areas?

Longer term, and I realise this might be a big ask, so would want to be sure was really useful first, but I'm wondering if one started with separate topic maps eg CANs with a climate action focus, etc. would there then be a way of combining for all topics? Would love to get your thoughts on all of this, especially the more immediate localisation / smaller areas question.

Thanks, Philralph (talk) 09:05, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@Philralph Hi! Sorry for the slow reply, I've been on vacation. Yes, data spread in several pages can then be combined in a single map. In fact, a few days ago I did exactly that for several maps, for example Ecovillages map. See Ecovillages map/data, Ecovillages map/data2, Ecovillages map/data3, Ecovillages map/data4 and the wikitext at Ecovillages map, especially the "subobjects-of" parameter to understand what I did, and let me know if anything is not clear!
Spreading the data of big maps in several pages is becoming necessary because when any data page is saved, the software requests the coordinates of the locations to an external service (https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org) so 50 locations means 50 requests! Therefore saving becomes very slow, and if the data page is too big, the request may actually timeout and fail. Therefore, to reduce this risk, big data pages should be spread in smaller ones (about 50 per page sounds ok I think).
Hope this helps, let me know your thoughts! Sophivorus (talk) 12:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Sophivorus, hope you had an enjoyable vacation. Thanks, Yes, spreading the data looks good. I'll make a start on evolving the CAN maps, cheers, Philralph (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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