Mikko (Okkim Babii), Markus (Markus Darkward NOW Walder Qarnac), Annette 13.04.2010

Who has enough credibility to participate in forest related discussions?[edit | edit source]

Markus looked at the UN pages. Although in theory there should be global forest UN stuff, including a year of forests there is very little on line. Many of the top people seem Finnish - though there is no ART NGOs and the civil society that is linked to on the websites seem very general or very localized. No actual chance for people to be involved in anything concrete could be found. There were no contact email working on the CFP site. Elsewhere only the heads of the org were contactable - how this meets the forest PRINCIPLES of involving women, children and youth is not clear.

In the funding section, no rainforest nor old growth forest supporting charities were present. Instead there was a list of rapacious capitalist multinationals.

Information is very out of date - there is no calendar of events for 2010.

LINKS here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20111008070203/http://www.fao.org:80/forestry/cpf/2092/en/

http://www.fao.org/forestry/cpf/sourcebook/17248/en/

http://www.fao.org/forestry/cpf/2090/en/

http://web.archive.org/web/20150406023244/http://www.un.org/esa/forests/contacts-major_groups.html#ngo

http://web.archive.org/web/20120209034225/http://ica-international.org/volunteer.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/20160808202915/http://www.sibforest.org/fsfeng.html

When looking at the jobs sections there was either nothing or very high level specializd jobs. Several mentioned volunteers / interns. BUT there was no actual description of what this involved and no chance if you happened to live outside of North America to participate in anything really.

Who pays?[edit | edit source]

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/05/nature_conservationists_want_100_million_more_annually_1703259.html

  • Dialogue or not?

Global forestry and resistance against it[edit | edit source]

  • Russian CASE

Save Baikal from paper mill Since 1966, when the mill first opened, it has been the main polluter of Lake Baikal. The mill sends about 5 tons of harmful emissions into the atmosphere annually, polluting up to 400 square kilometers of territory around Baikalsk, and builds up millions of tons of dangerous solid wastes along the shores of the lake. (Moscow TImes)

In January, Putin signed a decree to relaunch the mill, which was closed because of the financial crisis. If you want to get additional info in RUssian:

DIFFERENT RUSSIAN CASE - leads to civil society oppression - NB Finnish MEP speaks on case

Greens/EFA Group in the European Parliament and the European Green Party condemn in the strongest possible terms the raid by police on the offices of the Social-Ecological Union (SEU) in the city of Samara. SEU is oldest and largest environmental organisation in Russia and is one of the country's most respected NGOs. This raid is just the latest example of the Russian authorities' ongoing persecution of civil society organizations and activists

In a joint statement, Green MEP Heidi Hautala, Chairwoman of the Subcommittee on Human Rights and Monica Frassoni and Philippe Lamberts, EGP Co-Spokespersons said:

"This very worrying incident shows that in spite of recent statements by President Medvedev about his wish to see more respect for democracy and human rights in Russia, abuses are still taking place with alarming frequency. We must be clear about the fact that the incident in Samara took place against the backdrop of a sweeping rollback of freedoms of expression, association and assembly in Russia. Although the Samara City Department for Internal Affairs have claimed that the raid on SEU's offices were part of an "investigation related to a criminal case", SEU's representative in Samara, Sergey Simak, has received no official information about the reason for the raid. It can also surely be no mere coincidence that the raid occurred on 13th April, just one day after activists from Samara and 44 other cities in Russia held protests against the felling of virgin Mediterranean pistachio-juniper forests to make space for the construction of a health and sports complex. "

"We join the many concerned civil society and environmental organizations and activists both in Russia and internationally who have condemned the actions of the authorities in Samara. We call on the authorities in Samara to give a clear explanation of why the raid took place and demand that the President of Russia and his government take decisive action to protect civil society from pressure and attacks by authorities at all level. We Greens will continue to scrutinise this case and other examples of abuses of civil and democratic rights in Russia and call on the authorities to respect the rights under the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights, to which Russia is a party. Furthermore, we urge the EU and its member states to put pressure on Russia so that its citizens can enjoy the freedoms and human rights that we are all entitled to. We will do this in partnership with the EGP's Member Organisation in Russia, GROZA and Green Russia, the EGP's Observer Organisation there. "

  • Uraguay and Argentina Paper mill

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/07/argentina_and_uruguay_settle_dispute_over_finnish_pulp_mill_1864334.html

Forest for[edit | edit source]

    • families damages forest:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8654350.stm

(shows green healthy)

Transport issue

http://maastoliikennevalvonta.fi/

Colorado USA http://web.archive.org/web/20121105011754/http://www.gjsentinel.com:80/outdoors/articles/trail_networks_help_snowmobile

    • Fuck for Forests

http://www.fuckforforest.com/side-meny.html

    • Children

FOREST FIRES[edit | edit source]

and blog post on state removing forest protections

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Wildfire

shows people are too risky and om page is pic of burnt Boreal forest: boreal_pine_forest_after_fire.jpg

==* Forest for

      • rural livelihood, ==

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B7GJ5-4T0X2TH-1&_user=10&_coverDate=08%2F31%2F2009&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1319262837&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=0eb78b7908d7cee41d3d14e2d40d2538

Why protection of biodiversity creates conflict – Some evidence from the Nordic countries

Northern Natures. A study of the forest question emerging within the timber-line conflict in Finland (Fennia 196:1).

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/south-wales-evening-post/mi_8021/is_20100519/protester-tells-inquiry-power-sa1/ai_n53653637/?tag=content;col1

Looks like big city burns wood, must be imported, possibly from Scandinavia therefore Finnish forests??

    • supporting unsustainable cities
  • Europe + Multinational + UN versus

Nation state, local areas

  • Paper mill corporations - big business, small local woodcrafts and artisans

War and forestsftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/007/y5574e/y5574e12.pdf

Forests & Religion[edit | edit source]

http://web.archive.org/web/20131021095109/http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=auqld&c=trads&id=13929

wicca and capitalism

http://web.archive.org/web/20100704025802/http://www.witchvox.com:80/va/dt_va.html?a=usva&c=words&id=13787

tree articles

http://web.archive.org/web/20140325173418/http://www.witchvox.com/_x.html?c=earth&offset=50

http://web.archive.org/web/20100405233325/http://www.witchvox.com:80/va/dt_va.html?a=usmo&c=earth&id=13699

http://web.archive.org/web/20190312113609/http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usor&c=earth&id=13764

http://web.archive.org/web/20100406013201/http://www.witchvox.com:80/va/dt_va.html?a=usmi&c=earth&id=12576

http://web.archive.org/web/20180311180005/http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=gtxx&c=earth&id=11957

http://web.archive.org/web/20120908055856/http://www.witchvox.com:80/va/dt_va.html?a=ussc&c=earth&id=11307

http://web.archive.org/web/20190312063003/http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usor&c=earth&id=10864

The WildWood Tradition of Witchcraft

and tree stuff

OPERATION NOAH - *https://operationnoah.org/

Psalm 96:12 juhlikoot maa ja sen luodut, humiskoot ilosta metsien puut -ENGLISH Let all of the trees of the forest break out joyfully

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