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: Changed some software links to Wikipedia references. Is it better to leave them as Appropedia links and create pages that link to the Wikipedia reference?
: Changed some software links to Wikipedia references. Is it better to leave them as Appropedia links and create pages that link to the Wikipedia reference?


: --[[User:Kinzer|Kinzer]] 12:46, 6 September 2006 (PDT)
: --[[User:Kinzer|Kinzer]] 12:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) <sup><small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small></sup> 01:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 
===competing with wiki.laptop.org?===
I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question.  Is it meaningful to also have an effort here?  --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 18:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed ''Children's Machine'') then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) &middot; <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::On further reflection, I agree.  Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem.  One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out?  If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away?  After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail.  Hmm.  But that's a topic for a different place and time.  --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention.
 
:::Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) &middot; <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
==Link or Wikipedia template?==
Re Curt's question in the edit summary (October 24, 2006):
:<tt>fixed more "$100 laptop" links.  Add Wikipedia template for that?</tt>
 
If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{tl|wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) &middot; <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article.  Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page...  Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop...  --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
::It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently.
 
::I've posted a comment/question on this at [[Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis]]. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) &middot; <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== The VacuumPacked Computer ==
 
The "VacuumPacked Computer", a conceptual project by Allen Wong, was the winner of the 2002 Global Civil Society Laptop contest from the Viridian Movement.
 
http://web.archive.org/web/20080517011643/http://viridianrepository.com/GlobalCivil/
<br>
http://www.viridiandesign.org/About.htm
 
- The Vacuum Packed Computer is not (yet) ready for the real world, but might be a source of inspiration.
*The Global Civil Society Laptop http://www.fieldsync.com/viridian/
*Design Minimalism 101 http://web.archive.org/web/20140922130640/http://www.manufacturingcenter.com/dfx/archives/1002/1002layerone.asp
 
-- [[User:Writtenonsand|Writtenonsand]] 16:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== Changes and More information ==
 
*New LCD Monitors start at $100 and new CRT at around $70. Http://www.pricegrabber.com
*Windows based PCs are not inherently less secure than Mac/Linux
*I would not recommended any media drives if flash drives (pen drives ect.) are available as USB ports are standard on almost every motherboard.
 
-- [[User:Munimortal|Munimortal]] 16:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:36, 29 August 2024

Link Changes[edit source]

Changed some software links to Wikipedia references. Is it better to leave them as Appropedia links and create pages that link to the Wikipedia reference?
--Kinzer 12:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) talk 01:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

competing with wiki.laptop.org?[edit source]

I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --CurtB 18:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed Children's Machine) then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 16:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --CurtB 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention.
Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 17:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Link or Wikipedia template?[edit source]

Re Curt's question in the edit summary (October 24, 2006):

fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?

If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 16:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article. Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page... Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop... --CurtB 17:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently.
I've posted a comment/question on this at Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 17:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The VacuumPacked Computer[edit source]

The "VacuumPacked Computer", a conceptual project by Allen Wong, was the winner of the 2002 Global Civil Society Laptop contest from the Viridian Movement.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080517011643/http://viridianrepository.com/GlobalCivil/
http://www.viridiandesign.org/About.htm

- The Vacuum Packed Computer is not (yet) ready for the real world, but might be a source of inspiration.

-- Writtenonsand 16:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changes and More information[edit source]

  • New LCD Monitors start at $100 and new CRT at around $70. Http://www.pricegrabber.com
  • Windows based PCs are not inherently less secure than Mac/Linux
  • I would not recommended any media drives if flash drives (pen drives ect.) are available as USB ports are standard on almost every motherboard.

-- Munimortal 16:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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