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::Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small></sup> 01:21, 7 September 2006 (PDT) | ::Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) <sup><small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small></sup> 01:21, 7 September 2006 (PDT) | ||
===competing with wiki.laptop.org?=== | ===competing with wiki.laptop.org?=== | ||
I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 18:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT) | I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 18:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
:If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed ''Children's Machine'') then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | :If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed ''Children's Machine'') then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
::On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:00, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | |||
:::I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention. | |||
:::Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | |||
==Link or Wikipedia template?== | ==Link or Wikipedia template?== | ||
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:<tt>fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?</tt> | :<tt>fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?</tt> | ||
If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{tl|wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{tl|wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
:In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article. Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page... Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop... --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:03, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | |||
::It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently. | |||
::I've posted a comment/question on this at [[Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis]]. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] (now known as [[User:Chriswaterguy| Chriswaterguy]]) · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | |||
== The VacuumPacked Computer == | |||
The "VacuumPacked Computer", a conceptual project by Allen Wong, was the winner of the 2002 Global Civil Society Laptop contest from the Viridian Movement. | |||
http://viridianrepository.com/GlobalCivil/ | |||
<br> | |||
http://www.viridiandesign.org/About.htm | |||
- The Vacuum Packed Computer is not (yet) ready for the real world, but might be a source of inspiration. | |||
*The Global Civil Society Laptop http://www.fieldsync.com/viridian/ | |||
*Design Minimalism 101 http://www.manufacturingcenter.com/dfx/archives/1002/1002layerone.asp | |||
-- [[User:Writtenonsand|Writtenonsand]] 16:45, 17 February 2008 (PST) | |||
== Changes and More information == | |||
*New LCD Monitors start at $100 and new CRT at around $70. Http://www.pricegrabber.com | |||
*Windows based PCs are not inherently less secure than Mac/Linux | |||
*I would not recommended any media drives if flash drives (pen drives ect.) are available as USB ports are standard on almost every motherboard. | |||
-- [[User:Munimortal|Munimortal]] 16:21, 14 February 2011 (PST) |
Revision as of 07:49, 27 February 2012
Link Changes
- Changed some software links to Wikipedia references. Is it better to leave them as Appropedia links and create pages that link to the Wikipedia reference?
- --Kinzer 12:46, 6 September 2006 (PDT)
- Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) talk 01:21, 7 September 2006 (PDT)
competing with wiki.laptop.org?
I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --CurtB 18:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT)
- If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed Children's Machine) then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
- On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --CurtB 17:00, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
- I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention.
- On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --CurtB 17:00, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
- Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
Link or Wikipedia template?
Re Curt's question in the edit summary (October 24, 2006):
- fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?
If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
- In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article. Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page... Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop... --CurtB 17:03, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
- It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently.
- I've posted a comment/question on this at Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis. --Singkong2005 (now known as Chriswaterguy) · talk 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT)
The VacuumPacked Computer
The "VacuumPacked Computer", a conceptual project by Allen Wong, was the winner of the 2002 Global Civil Society Laptop contest from the Viridian Movement.
http://viridianrepository.com/GlobalCivil/
http://www.viridiandesign.org/About.htm
- The Vacuum Packed Computer is not (yet) ready for the real world, but might be a source of inspiration.
- The Global Civil Society Laptop http://www.fieldsync.com/viridian/
- Design Minimalism 101 http://www.manufacturingcenter.com/dfx/archives/1002/1002layerone.asp
-- Writtenonsand 16:45, 17 February 2008 (PST)
Changes and More information
- New LCD Monitors start at $100 and new CRT at around $70. Http://www.pricegrabber.com
- Windows based PCs are not inherently less secure than Mac/Linux
- I would not recommended any media drives if flash drives (pen drives ect.) are available as USB ports are standard on almost every motherboard.
-- Munimortal 16:21, 14 February 2011 (PST)