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: --[[User:Kinzer|Kinzer]] 12:46, 6 September 2006 (PDT) | : --[[User:Kinzer|Kinzer]] 12:46, 6 September 2006 (PDT) | ||
::Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | ::Thanks! Re leaving them as Appropedia links - no, definitely better as you've done it. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small></sup> 01:21, 7 September 2006 (PDT) | ||
===competing with wiki.laptop.org?=== | ===competing with wiki.laptop.org?=== | ||
I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 18:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT) | I added a link to the OLPC (one laptop per child) site, where they have an entire wiki dedicated to this question. Is it meaningful to also have an effort here? --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 18:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
:If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed ''Children's Machine'') then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | :If they are open to having a page on the broader issue of "low cost computers," (rather than just the recently renamed ''Children's Machine'') then you're right, that would be a better place to do it. Do you want to ask them? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
::On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:00, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ::On further reflection, I agree. Once I got a better understanding that the Children's Machine was a defeatured machine, then I realized it was addressing a different problem. One interesting thought is, what happens to the market when the defeatured machine comes out? If we are all really web-based (Microsoft's worst fear) maybe PC's go away? After all, my critical applications are now google, MediaWiki and gmail. Hmm. But that's a topic for a different place and time. --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:00, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
:::I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention. | :::I still think that transwikiing it to their wiki would be a good idea, if they're open to it. For one thing, a "Low cost computer guide" at that site should attract more attention. | ||
:::Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | :::Re web-based applications... yes, this is changing, but the "network PC" that was talked about in the 90s seemed like a bad idea then, and I think the concept still relies too heavily on the reliability of the network. The Children's Machine still operates as a PC, so if they're in a village with no internet connection but they have some applications, and information loaded on (e.g. from Wikipedia), then it's still useful. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
==Link or Wikipedia template?== | ==Link or Wikipedia template?== | ||
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:<tt>fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?</tt> | :<tt>fixed more "$100 laptop" links. Add Wikipedia template for that?</tt> | ||
If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{tl|wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | If there's a paragraph or more on a topic like this, the {{tl|wikipedia p}} template is good. Otherwise, I think an inline link as in the present article might be better. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 16:40, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
:In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article. Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page... Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop... --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:03, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | :In this case, I was really thinking of highlighting the presence of the wikipedia article. Having a blue link, it's not obvious that it's wikipedia, which I, for one, regard as more provocative than the idea that there might be a separate $100 Appropedia page... Even though we don't replicate (I guess?) much content from the Wikipedia page, we do have about 5 references to $100 laptop... --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 17:03, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
::It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently. | ::It does mention at the top of the list that the links are from Wikipedia... but be bold, and see how it looks if it's done differently. | ||
::I've posted a comment/question on this at [[Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis]]. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | ::I've posted a comment/question on this at [[Appropedia talk:Policy discussion#Linking to Wikipedia & other wikis]]. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 17:52, 24 October 2006 (PDT) | ||
== The VacuumPacked Computer == | == The VacuumPacked Computer == | ||