Editing User talk:Philralph

== Interwiki collaboration ==

Thanks for suggesting the [[Interwiki collaboration month]] - I left a comment there. 

Are you in/near London? One of Appropedia's directors is there (Andrew Lamb) and of course we have some other contacts. We've casually discussed some kind of event in London - unfortunately I'm not likely to be there for that one, but I'd love to see it happen. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Would love to work with you ==

Hi Phil,

Re [[User talk:Chriswaterguy #Could Sustainable Community Action contribute to Appropedia?|putting Sustainable Community Action pages here]]. In short: absolutely! 

I think everything you're doing would be very welcome here. The only problem I could imagine is if you were covering political matters in a biased way, but as far as I can see you're not covering political activism as such (i.e. not focusing on particular parties).

We're also in the process of merging with [http://ekopedia.org Ekopedia], so things should be getting bigger and more active in the new year!

Is there anything that needs clarifying, or where you need help? Be sure to let me know. 

For converting Wiser.org pages to wiki markup, see [[Appropedia:WikEd]], which explains how to use our [https://www.appropedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appropedia:Wikedbox&action=edit conversion tool]. Cheers! --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 03:55, 4 December 2013 (PST)

PS looks like you didn't get the official welcome. Here it is...


== Hi Philralph ==

Thanks for the invite.  Of course I'm on board.  I don't know my way around yet, but I'm here.  Tried to put the box on my user page, to no avail. Flowergirl

:Great! To get the box to show, you just need to replace the space between 'User sca' & 'Flowergirl' with a '|' [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 23:56, 26 June 2015 (PDT)

Aussome.  Will do.  Can we talk?  I'm flowergirl.donna@gmail.com    I can see you're a busy man.  My feelings won't be hurt if it takes you a while to get around to it.

== Welcome! ==

Hi {{PAGENAME}},  

Welcome to the Appropedia wiki! If you need a general wiki-tutorial, see [[Help:Contents|the main help page]] (or the [[Wikieducator:Wikieducator tutorial|more in-depth one]] on WikiEducator).

Check your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]. It's a good idea to verify your email address and turn on email notification - then you'll be notified when you get a message on your talk page, or when any page on your [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], is modified.  You may want to upload a photo or information about yourself to your userpage (which is at [[User:{{PAGENAME}}]]).

If you have a particular interest or project in mind, go ahead and start it! If you have questions or suggestions, the best place to leave them is at our community discussion page, which we call the [[Appropedia:Village_pump|Village pump]] - you should get a fast response. Or, feel free to leave me a note on my [[User talk:{{REVISIONUSER}}|talk page]] if you have further questions, need help finding your way around, have a cool idea for a project, or just want to chat. If you just want to know how things work here, check out [[Appropedia:Policies]] and [[Appropedia:FAQ]]. We're a relaxed and friendly bunch though, and you can also just pick things up as you go. 

Glad to have you here!

--[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]])

== Great stuff ==

Really great to see these place and event pages - these are important resources, and very complementary. I'll work on getting attention for these efforts - let us know if you need anything. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 04:29, 20 December 2013 (PST)

== SCA template; blog post ==

FYI we still have {{tl|SCA}} pointing to the old wiki ([https://www.appropedia.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:SCA used on these pages]). What do you think we should do with those?

One of my goals is to communicate much more about what Appropedia is doing, starting with our blog - I just wrote a post about your work with SCA. http://blogs.appropedia.org/2014/01/10/sustainable-community-action/ 

Thanks again for all your contributions. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 05:40, 10 January 2014 (PST)

:Thanks Chris, replied at [[User_talk:Chriswaterguy#Could_Sustainable_Community_Action_contribute_to_Appropedia.3F]]

== 'Facts about' links on location pages ==

Hi Phil, 

Re "I noticed the 'Facts about...' box which doesn't seem to appear in the edit box, and seems to disappear if the redirect is replaced. "

Don't worry about the boxes. I don't understand their purpose, but they're something to do with Semantic Mediawiki (which we are using). I hope to understand that better in coming months as we work on this. 

"Unless I hear otherwise I'll name the affected pages as eg 'Costa Rica, sustainable community action'" - seems reasonable. One important thing is consistency, and I think you're being consistent. I wasn't sure about the comma, but if it's consistent, it's okay.

Thanks --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 07:25, 17 January 2014 (PST)

:Replied [[User_talk:Chriswaterguy#.27Facts_about.27_links_on_location_pages|here]] - thanks --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 21:11, 17 January 2014 (PST)

== Green vision link ==

Looks good. Replied [[User_talk:Chriswaterguy#Visions_of_sustainable_futures|here]]. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] ([[User talk:Chriswaterguy|talk]]) 13:08, 24 February 2014 (PST)

== Hi and Open CO2 project ==

Hi Phil, I just came across your page via the Appropedia active users list - great to learn about these projects you're working on.

The "Open CO2" definitely piques my interest in more open data, and deliberately using visualisations of complex issues to aid in public debate/engagement. Perhaps there is some parallel to work I'm doing to better visualise how transport systems work, especially in terms of weaknesses of public transport networks and how to effectively improve them - see [[Transport Informatics]], e.g. [[Travel time maps]] as one example. Feel free to contact me via links on my userpage. --[[User:PatSunter|PatSunter]] ([[User talk:PatSunter|talk]]) 23:50, 14 March 2014 (PDT)
* BTW: if any of your Sustainable Community Action pages you're porting here are transport-focused, please let me know. I'm working on improving the several pages in the transport section of Appropedia at the moment.

== Mini libraries ==

Hi Phil (nice to internet-meet you),

I just created the article [[mini library]]. It seems like it would fit in well with the SCA material. If you could take a moment to categorize it, I'd appreciate it. Great job on all the work you've done on green wikis over the years! --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 09:24, 15 May 2015 (PDT)

:replied on your [[User talk:Ethan|talk]] page, [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 09:39, 15 May 2015 (PDT)

::Sure, I'd be glad to join the SCA side of things. I went ahead and created and populated the sharing category. Thanks! --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 11:29, 15 May 2015 (PDT)

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on porting over all of the articles! --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 14:38, 2 September 2015 (PDT)

:Thanks, Ethan. Just the resources section, plus maybe a few more 'meta' type pages to go. Maybe finished overall by Xmas. [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 23:50, 2 September 2015 (PDT)

::I see, well it's a milestone at least. By the way, would you like me to delete the old categories left over from the SCA to CAS renaming? --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 00:37, 28 September 2015 (PDT)

:::Hi Ethan, yes, that'd be good. Bit more renaming of categories to come, but not a prority at present, Cheers, [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 00:45, 28 September 2015 (PDT)

== African vernacular architecture ==

I ran across an interesting website that hosts images of natural material buildings across Africa: http://www.africavernaculararchitecture.com/ I'd like to post links to the various country pages on CAS. What would be the best place to put them? Maybe as a subheading under "Resources"? --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 18:44, 9 October 2015 (PDT)

:Yes, subheading under "Resources" sounds good, "Images" as a sub-heading? [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 01:19, 10 October 2015 (PDT)

== New Zealand ecovillage ==

Hi Phil, I posted some articles about the failed ecovillage at [[User talk:Dylan Evans|Dylan Evans' talk page]]. It sounds like a really bad situation. We might want to alter some of the language used there, but I can't blame someone in Dylan's position for blowing off some steam (assuming he was someone who bought into the village). --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 05:30, 29 October 2015 (PDT)

:Great, thanks, Ethan [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 09:39, 29 October 2015 (PDT)

== CASwiki invitation ==

Hi Phil, Thanks for the invitation, it sounds great and yes, I'd like to take part. Can I just confirm how this works, is this a wiki within a wiki? And I just add topics here and mark them to CASwiki through categories? Just needing some guidance on that. Thanks! [[User:Felicity Tepper|Felicity]] ([[User talk:Felicity Tepper|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2015 (PST)

:Thanks for the explanation Phil, that has really helped me to better understand the approach being taken. I think it's wonderful to include all the community action here too. I'll add my name. And wow, you've brought across an enormous amount of information, that will be a fantastic guidance. I'll let you know if I have questions, I am bound to. Kind regards, 12:35, 13 November 2015 (PST)

== Front page news? ==

A few years ago someone pitched the idea of having a news feed on the main page. At that time it didn't really make sense, but now that you've been updating CAS news, I think it's an idea worth pursuing. I can see a couple of benefits here: 1) shows that Appropedia has an active community of editors, 2) balances the more static material that typifies the main page, 4) potentially invites more user participation, 4) can drive more traffic to CASwiki. I've made [[User:Ethan/Main|an example]] of what it could look like. Is this something you'd be interested in? You'd probably be the one updating it the most. --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 03:41, 23 November 2015 (PST)

== NZ News item ==
Hi Phil, Could you please check that I've added the news item properly here: https://www.appropedia.org/Template:New_Zealandnews#News_and_comment. Cheers, Felicity

: Cool, thanks. :)

== Young and beginning farmers ==

I created the page [[young and beginning farmers]] which I think fits within the purview of CAS, and its format is based on it. --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 21:09, 29 November 2015 (PST)

== Resource Index for Bioregions ==

If you have access to a copy of the [[Permaculture Designers' Manual]], you may want to read pgs. 511-513. Mollison & co. drew up an outline for a regional directory for all kinds of resources. It's a similar concept to CAS ("the system is best suited to computer retrieval" -- indeed!). --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 03:36, 2 April 2016 (PDT)

== Segapedia ==

:Philralph, could you help me with my wiki called Segapedia? It is at [http://segapedia.shoutwiki.com Segapedia]. My user name is "Tiger Mum". [[User:Saftzie|<span style="color:magenta">Saftzie</span>]] ([[User talk:Saftzie|Message me!]]) 00:47, 23 April 2019 (PDT)

== Display on [[East Midlands]] page broken ==

The above page is not displaying very well, just below the "Food Activism" subheading. I've tried to fix it, but can't see how to do this, as far as I can see some wiki markup is being transcluded when it shouldn't be ... possibly related to the widget you are using? 

Also, request that you add the following link to the page,[http://www.ecoworks.org.uk/] if you feel it is appropriate. I'm thinking of writing a short article about the [[forest garden]] they have there. 

Kind regards, [[User:Moribund|Moribund]] ([[User talk:Moribund|talk]]) 14:30, 10 June 2019 (CDT)

:Fixed now! Sorry for jumping in here uninvited... I was checking Recent Changes for bugs caused by the server move and came across this thread. This was caused by an older, unrelated bug (my fault, I left out a noinclude tag when I was upgrading Extension:Widgets a few months ago). It should be fixed now. -[[User:Roger|Roger]] ([[User talk:Roger|talk]]) 22:19, 10 June 2019 (CDT)

::Hi, [[User:Moribund|Moribund]], thanks for the Ecoworks link, now included. Please feel free to add in any further internal links to your short article if appropriate.

::Thanks [[User:Roger|Roger]] for the other fix(es). Very much appreciated! [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 04:06, 11 June 2019 (CDT)

:::Great, thanks. I've starting drafting an article, but still gathering info. Regards, M. [[User:Moribund|Moribund]] ([[User talk:Moribund|talk]]) 12:32, 12 June 2019 (CDT)

== I'd love to learn more about CAS ==

I'm always reading all your content, and I'd like to learn more about your interests and plans. I'd love to include them into some of the plans that we're making for Appropedia. Do you have some time to talk? I also left you a tweet, so you can recognize my contact.

== "Inspiring quotes 2" ==

Hello, Philralph. I have found way too many grammar mistakes on this article. Not just the grammar, but also spelling mistakes and non-captial letters. But now, the article is now sorted, thanks to my part of the job! And remember... '''Express yourself, be heard!''' --[[User:Auri|Auri]] ([[User talk:Auri|talk]]) 01:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== News templates ==

Hi, hope you're well! I noticed that most of the [[Special:UnusedTemplates|unused templates]] are "news" templates, such as [[Template:Vietnamnews]], [[Template:Zambianews‏]], etc. I was about to delete them but I found you're the main author and that you're still very much active, so I'd like to ask if those templates were an experiment, or will soon be used, or what. Maybe I can help! Kind regards, [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 03:34, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

== Re: user infobox image size ==

Hi, yes! I added an image-size parameter to the infoboxes and [[Special:Diff/427356|used it in your infobox]]. Let me know of any other issue or request! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 19:58, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

== Organization infobox ==

Hi,

We're starting to use infoboxes more and more as we develop the site. I was wondering, would you be interested in testing [[Template:Infobox organization]] for some of the initiatives you think are interesting? I'm even curious about the possibility of using that information later to collaborate with [https://www.greenmap.org/], as we've had some conversations with them. I'm sure that this would be super useful to get people interested in exploring sustainable initiatives in their regions. We'll start thinking about finding interns to help out with this in the future. —[[User:Emilio|Emilio]] ([[User talk:Emilio|talk]]) 04:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

:Hi Emilio, yes ok, I'll give it some thought [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 12:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! Here are a couple of examples of how we're using them: [[Footsteps Ecolodge]], [[Architecture for Humanity]], [[Village Earth]]. [[User:Emilio|Emilio]] ([[User talk:Emilio|talk]]) 15:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi Emilio, just had a go at using on [[Transition Network]], which raised a couple of questions, which I've put on the template talk page [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 11:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

== We'd like to chat! ==

'''{{Re|Philralph|Sophivorus}}''' Hi! [[User:Sophivorus]] and I have been talking about chatting with you if you have the time. We have a few ideas to improve the impact of [[CASwiki]] on Appropedia. Would you like to chat soon? —[[User:Emilio|Emilio]] ([[User talk:Emilio|talk]]) 16:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Emilio|Emilio]], @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], thanks. @[[User:Emilio|Emilio]], I'll email you about this. [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 15:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

== Your 2021 impact stats are right here! ==

<div class="stats2021">
[[File:Let's recap.png|thumb|400px]]

Hi Phil! We thought you may want know that your top performing pages so far are:

# [[Community action for sustainability]] (14 664 page views) {{Edit|Update!|Community action for sustainability}}
# [[Ethical consumerism]] (5 572 page views) {{Edit|Update!|Ethical consumerism}}
# [[Indonesia community action]] (4 825 page views) {{Edit|Update!|Indonesia community action}}
# [[Health and wellbeing]] (4 605 page views) {{Edit|Update!|Health and wellbeing}}
# [[Circular economy]] (4 561 page views) {{Edit|Update!|Circular economy}}

Overall, your impact has been of '''409,487''' page views, woozaa!

Also, [[User:Philralph|your user page]] has received '''2225''' visits! People are interested in knowing more about you, {{Edit|edit your user page|User:Philralph}} to tell the world what you've been up to.

Thanks for your contributions and for making Appropedia great, have a merry [[green Christmas]]!!

[[Appropedia:About|The Appropedia Team]]
</div>

== note on items ==

hi there Philralph. so nice to meet you and to be in touch. thanks for your note to me at my page, and at Village Pump. just wanted to let you know, I added a little bit more data to my user page. it's not a huge amount, but it enables people to find my user page on wikipedia, where i have much more content. by the way, just curious, do you have an account at Wikipedia?? I imagine that you do. obviously, the resources there can be beneficial to us periodically in a few ways. I am also thinking of gradually encouraging a few experienced editors at Wikipedia to get active occasionally at Appropedia, depending on where their interests are.

Wikipedia is obviously the big fish in the ocean of wikis. However, in my opinion, Appropedia is firmly in the number 2 slot, for important wikis worldwide. the work  that we do here that is fully outside the scope of Wikipedia, is one major part of our usefulness. Wikipedia is purely as an encyclopedia that relies mainly on existing data published elsewhere. however, the need to promote sustainable technology on a worldwide basis, using a wiki to do so, is a major reason that Appropedia fulfils a great function. Considering the amazing usefulness of wikis, it would be a huge waste of potential if we didn't have a wiki where activists, designers, and thinkers could not exchange original ideas and information on how to get things done. so that is why I really see the usefulness of Appropedia.

I guess that's my little miniature essay for today. :-)  By the way, I was thinking that since Wikipedia does have dozens of user essays on wikipedia itself, detailing various ways to improve Wikipedia continuously, and also some of the ways that wikipedia can play more of a useful role, perhaps we might occasionally provide essays of that type here, on an infrequent basis if we want. Just a thought on that. anyway, it's great to hear your ideas. thanks so much for all your work. see you! --[[User:Sm-neutron|Sm-neutron]] ([[User talk:Sm-neutron|talk]]) 18:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:Sm-neutron]], thanks for this. Yes, I did have an account at Wikipedia but probably not used for 15 yrs or so, and probably nothing much of note anyway! Sounds good encouraging some experienced editors from there. Thanks for your essay, and good to meet someone who shares my feeling on the "the amazing usefulness of wikis". I also like the idea in your last para. [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 17:29, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
::{{Re|Philralph}} Hi! I had a nice chat with [[User:Sm-neutron]] and he mentioned that his main interest is accomodating Appropedia for community organizers and grassroots organizations, especially in the NYC area. Super exciting! I'm sure he can learn a lot from you. — [[User:Emilio|Emilio]] ([[User talk:Emilio|talk]]) 00:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== New tools ==

Hi Phil, hope you're doing good! I wanted to let you know that I just enabled a new tool for you. If you edit any page (with the source editor) you'll notice a little magic wand among the icons. If you click it, the wikitext of the page will be automatically standardized. This is useful for easily scanning pages and noticing errors. Also, since you've found [[Template:Wikipedia excerpt]] useful, I wanted to let you know that [[Template:Wikipedia definition]] also exists. It may be more appropriate in some cases, since our goal here is more towards action than encyclopedic information. Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 14:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], fantastic! thanks! hope all goes well with you! Cheers [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 16:18, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

== Widget:Civics replaced by Template:Civics_map ==

Hi! I replaced the [[Widget:Civics]] I made for you for [[Template:Civics map]]. It works exactly the same, but being a template, you may find it a bit more familiar. I already replaced all the calls to the widget for calls to the template, but let me know if you notice any issues. Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 17:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

== Automatic wikitext standardization ==

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I just replaced the normalization tool (the little magic wand) with a more robust tool that fixes wikitext automatically every time you (or anyone) saves a page. More details at [[Appropedia:Village pump#Automatic wikitext standardization]], cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 14:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

== Academic citation ==
{{Re|Philralph}} Hi! I don't know if you follow these, but I just noticed that [[Community involvement]] was cited on this Indian [https://ijfans.org/uploads/paper/4392c88a75ef479fcbe4a24fc8a503ff.pdf academic paper]. I figured you'd like to see it. —[[User:Emilio|Emilio]] ([[User talk:Emilio|talk]]) 20:20, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{Re|Emilio}} Hi! Thanks for this! Hope all goes well with you, best, [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 10:51, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

== Branding for CASwiki ==

Hi, good news! We're experimenting with a system to let projects within Appropedia have some branding, see for example [[Fashion Revolution]] and [[SELF]]. I'd like to offer you the possibility of some branding for your project too! If you're interested, I prepared some documentation of the requirements at [[Appropedia:Project branding]]. Hopefully they are clear enough, but do let me know if not. Regarding the logo, I know you've been using [[:File:Scalogo1(png).png|this one]], but I notice it has a white background, which would look ugly over the slightly grey background of the Appropedia header, so you might want to look at tools like https://www.remove.bg, or perhaps even take this opportunity to redesign the logo completely. Also, you may want to include the words "CASwiki" (or "Community Action" or whatever you like) in the logo. Perhaps https://boxy-svg.com/app may come handy. Hope you like this new development, cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 16:27, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

== Subpages ==

Hi, hope you're doing well! These days I've been reorganizing several pages in Appropedia as subpages. See for example [[:Category:Aerosol pandemic]] or [[:Category:Leucaena]], among others. Subpages have several advantages, but perhaps the most obvious one is that every subpage links directly to its parent page from the title itself in a breadcrumb style (see for example [[Aerosol pandemic/Adjusters]]) so every visitor of a subpage is likely to become aware of the parent page.

I was wandering if you'd like me to (automatically) rename some of your pages, for example the community action ones, to the subpage format. For example, [[Argentina community action]] to [[Community action/Argentina]]. Needless to say, the old titles would remain as redirects, so no links would be broken.

Looking forward to your reply! Kind regards, [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 12:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], thanks for this. Yes, doing ok thanks, if a little overwhelmed at times! Hope all goes well with you.
:Just to let you know I've seen this. Initial thoughts are sounds quite promising, but also feel the need to spend a bit of time thinking it all through. Lots of potential uses. Wondering if there are any downsides?
:A couple of questions, may be more later! 
:• any limit to number of subpages? eg Climate action/(place name), potentially quite a big number!
:• any complications with categories? eg Climate action/NYC into NYC category perhaps via location?
:• still able to map (see as quite important) eg [[Climate_action#Near_you]], eg via category?
:I'll be back in touch soon. Cheers, [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 12:15, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
::Hi, just another quick thought / question: I tend to think we shouldn't get into considering subpages of subpages, just getting too messy? eg Climate action and eg perhaps more so Food activism can split into many different types of activism, eg climate justice activism, community gardens, etc. So eg climate justice activism by location wouldn't be done by sub of sub. Similarly although the focus of the wiki is community action we shouldn't get into using subpages for locations, 'cause potentially fractures into smaller and smaller areas and subs of subs (?) [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 12:43, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Philralph|Philralph]] Hi!
:::* There's no limit to the number of subpages
:::* No complications with categories
:::* No complications with maps
:::* Regarding subs of subs, I'm not sure I understand your examples, but of course there's a limit as to the practicality of subpages. I think one level is generally enough, but in some cases two levels may be warranted, for example [[Australia news/2014-2015]] to [[News/Australia/2014-2015]]?
:::What do you think? Kind regards, [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 14:13, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
::::Hi @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], so far I think just one outstanding concern or question: if a change needed to a page name, eg to make it more accurate, would there be any less flexibility over this if multiple subpages? 
::::No specific examples in the list of possibilities below but many of the page names in CAN wiki / [[Citizens Action Network handbook]] probably likely to evolve over time so might be best not to have subpages here, at least until page names become more settled (?)
::::The names of the map pages on CANwiki (Near you & CAN support), are specifically designed to reflect the identity and central ideas and concepts of the Alternative's work, and that of their many co-creators, so wouldn't want any changes there.
::::On (the rest of) CASwiki, the following possibilities:
::::As you suggest:
::::Community action/
::::News/
::::plus:
::::Community resources/
::::Climate action/
::::Ecological restoration/
::::Food activism/
::::Towards sustainable economies/
::::Fairer, Kinder/ (though no 'global' topic page as yet, would probably expand from [[A fairer, kinder society]])
::::Community involvement/
::::Community energy/
::::Sustainable transport activism/
::::Rewilding/ (so far just a few pages for these last four, the top 6 likely to proliferate faster)
::::Most of the CASwiki topic (and resource topic) pages have a UK equivalent (sometimes a UK page without a corresponding global page), but in theory any topic page could be created, if enough content, for any location, so any topic could eventually have location subpages, eg [[Cycling activism/New York City]]
::::[[News/Australia/2014-2015]] type looks fine, but not sure there's a way of doing similar for topic (and local topic) news pages, 'cause news topics often deliberately wider than corresponding topics, eg Sustainable transport UK news, Sustainable transport activism UK & UK Climate news, Climate action UK, so might be best to just use one level here eg [[Sustainable transport UK news/2021-2022]], unless in News UK/Sustainable transport/2021-2022, Sustainable transport links back to Sustainable transport activism via a redirect (?)
::::Hope this is helpful, best [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 08:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Just realised that last example wouldn't work as there's already a [[Sustainable transport]] page. [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 08:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::A couple of further thoughts: 
::::::* Perhaps only the top level gets a link back, so no probs with topic news pages (?)
::::::* I think an as yet unvoiced concern was that beyond a few simple structures it shouldn't look like we're being too directive about page names to anyone wanting to start a new page, especially anything that better suits a local context (?) and / or could lead to loss of meaning via translations (?) 
::::::What do you think? [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 11:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Philralph|Philralph]] Hmm, your last concerns may hold some water. In any case, my usual tool for doing mass replacements is currently broken. I'm hoping for a fix soon, so until then we can give this more thought. Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 15:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

== Cards ==

Hi! You'll probably notice that I did some changes to [[Template:Excerpt]], [[Template:Wikipedia excerpt]] and [[Template:Place]] so that they all use [[Template:Card]] as a metatemplate. This is part of an effort to improve and unify the UI/UX of Appropedia. It may take a few minutes or days to get used to the new look, but I hope you'll agree they're improvements!

On that note, I'm also thinking on applying [[Template:Card]] to [[Template:Event]]. I did a small demo for you at [[UK community action events]]. I think this one is less obviously valuable, since the "text" parameter is rarely used and the cards seem empty. Also, it would require me to do some mass replacements on all existing places to remove the asterisk <nowiki>*</nowiki> preceding them, since cards will actually break if used in list items. But what do you think? Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 15:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]], yes, agree your first para changes are improvements.
:I'll give the event template some more thought, but one of my main concerns would be that event listings on location or topic pages don't take up too much space, or perhaps listings not affected (?), and the cards do look a bit odd seeming mostly empty. I do quite like the date display though, and wonder if all could be just on one line? I do quite like event displays when a very small image can be included. I know there's the page preview when there's an internal link, but over time listings with just an external link, at least to start with, may become more common. More ideas / questions to follow perhaps but that's probably enough for now, Cheers, [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 17:04, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Philralph|Philralph]] Hi! Glad you liked the first set of changes. I tried adding the calendar icon to the existing [[Template:Event]] and it think it looks great! So I went ahead and added an icon to [[Template:News]] too (and to [[Template:Excerpt]]). Check out [[Localism]] for an example of all three, and let me know what you think! Also, I created [[:Category:Pages with no events]] and [[:Category:Pages with no news]] to help you track and fix pages with empty lists of events or news. Cheers! [[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] ([[User talk:Sophivorus|talk]]) 15:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Sophivorus|Sophivorus]] Hi! Fantastic! Yes, template changes looking good, and thanks for the new categories to help be track and fix, Cheers [[User:Philralph|Philralph]] ([[User talk:Philralph|talk]]) 16:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)