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Check your email asap -- Joshua 19:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Ivana !

(We met in Montreal, at RoCoCo.)

Let's keep in touch ! Are you on Facebook ?

Fred Mir - fredofromstart@gmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 05:45, 3 July 2010, 74.198.15.1

Making a successful new wiki is hard

Hello Ivana, you ask:

• "Is one of the solutions to establish rich interconnected networks/ website/ database/ wikis for all A.T. related needs? How can we speed it up and scale up?"

I have some thoughts on these questions, but before writing them I will read your papers, to see if I have anything new to tell you. Wikis are probably the most effective platform to date for large-scale remote collaboration, but Making a successful new wiki is hard. Barriers exist to productive collaboration on wikis, and the (relatively few^W) successful wikis had to overcome these barriers, either by accident or by design. I suspect success involves a combination of accident and design in all cases - i.e., probably no one really knows how to make a successful wiki, at least not initially, only things they can do to increase the probability of success. --Teratornis 16:09, 10 February 2011 (PST)

Hi Teratornis. Thank you for the links and feedback! I agree with you on all the points: while wikis and internet platforms are the most effective ways of collaboration making a successful one is not an easy. Like you say there are things you can do to increase chances of success but it is by no means guaranteed. Perhaps with more and more people learning to edit wikis and realizing they can and should contribute, plus with further internet signals and computer outreach in all corners of the world, more data and more collaboration will surely flock on line and will become like second nature. But the sooner we can spur this on the sooner we can reap the rewards!

We discus this issue in one of our papers "Enabling Innovation" - which is currently under review awaiting publication, and I also plan on talking more about it in my thesis chapters which will also be submitted for publishing in near future. It is as much social as a technological thing - and getting more internet, wikis and tools of online collaborating in classrooms is definitely a key. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 17:50, 21 February 2011, Ivana Zelenika

I read your paper:

• Buitenhuis, Amy J.; Ivana Zelenika and J. M. Pearce (March 25-27, 2010). "Open Design-Based Strategies to Enhance Appropriate Technology Development" (PDF). Proceedings of the 14th Annual National Collegiate Inventors and Innovators Alliance Conference: Open. San Francisco. pp. 1-12.

and I have been editing some comments about it on my offline (personal) wiki. I will put them on a user subpage when I clean them up a bit. Other items:

• I hope you don't mind that I put a {{Talk header}}{{Talk header}} template on this page. You can remove it if you don't like it, but it links to the unobvious instructions for editing talk pages Wikipedia-style, which can be instructive for other users who might otherwise make your talk page untidy with ad hoc formatting.
• I refactored^W your reply to follow Wikipedia's indenting style.^W I like to follow Wikipedia's rules^W by default (only deviating when there is some compelling reason), because I think Wikipedia's editor community has defined the current best practice for editing on wikis. Appropedia's most experienced users like Lonny and Chriswaterguy generally do the same. It seems like all the wiki experts learned to edit on Wikipedia. Learning the same style enables one to immediately relate to the growing community of Wikipedia alumni.
• I used a {{Cite conference}} template (which I recently ported here from Wikipedia) to format the citation to your paper. Citation templates are one of several ways to format citations on a wiki. I prefer them because they are structured and machine-searchable. They understand DOIs,^W and archived^W (i.e. rot-proof^W) links, which I did not add to the above example.

Anyway, keep up the good work and I look forward to reading the rest of your papers. I should hurry up with my comments on your previous paper in case something gives you ideas for the next paper. --Teratornis 13:18, 22 February 2011 (PST)