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== Distilling permaculture knowledge ==
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[[Appropriateness]] and understanding the [[context]] are central to permaculture - it's very closely related to the idea of [[appropriate technology]]. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] 15:02, 25 February 2011 (PST)
[[Appropriateness]] and understanding the [[context]] are central to permaculture - it's very closely related to the idea of [[appropriate technology]]. --[[User:Chriswaterguy|Chriswaterguy]] 15:02, 25 February 2011 (PST)
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Distilling permaculture knowledge

Can we distill the Principles of permaculture into a brief form suitable to immediately after an emergency? Things you can use in a few minutes or a few hours, and even key ideas to put into "just in case" checklists that people might put on the door of their fridge. E.g. what to consider when seeking shelter or erecting a shelter, and how to collect water.

For some contexts: which places will be best for planting a garden (so don't put your shelter there). Not sure of the details on that one, since people who are that vulnerable are likely to be farmers and know more about food growing than most of us - which highlights the need to build develop guides with local knowledge.

Appropriateness and understanding the context are central to permaculture - it's very closely related to the idea of appropriate technology. --Chriswaterguy 15:02, 25 February 2011 (PST)

Article reads more like a user subpage

This article currently reads like it should be a user subpageW rather than an article, with many sentences written in the first person. Assertions that begin with the pronoun "I" should be attributable. There's nothing wrong with using a wiki as a scratchpad (I do it extensively) but we should keep the article space for information that is either objectively verifiable or at least is in a format that promotes collaboration. It's hard to see how to develop this article without in some way taking an ax to the material now on it, which should really be preserved in the primary author's user space. To attract other collaborators, one must make the path to collaboration clear. Articles should not start off as discussion pages about what should be in the article - it's not clear how to convert that into an article, in place. Supporting material belongs in user space, talk space, and/or project space. That's why wikis have namespaces.W --Teratornis 17:15, 25 February 2011 (PST)

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