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It would be good to provide more content on criticisms / failings of earthships and the for profit organisation earthship biotecture. Many times online I have read people saying that earthships do not perform as promised. The best summary of the arguments and criticisms against can be found on this page titled "Earthship Hype and Earthship Reality" [http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/earthship-hype-and-earthship-reality]. [[User:Moribund|Moribund]] ([[User talk:Moribund|talk]]) 11:56, 25 February 2017 (PST)
It would be good to provide more content on criticisms / failings of earthships and the for profit organisation earthship biotecture. Many times online I have read people saying that earthships do not perform as promised. The best summary of the arguments and criticisms against can be found on this page titled "Earthship Hype and Earthship Reality" [http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/earthship-hype-and-earthship-reality]. [[User:Moribund|Moribund]] ([[User talk:Moribund|talk]]) 11:56, 25 February 2017 (PST)
:Absolutely. One of the major focuses of Appropedia is to document the deployments of various techniques/technologies. Can we replicate the same results in different contexts? This is something I'd also like to see more of in the permaculture community also. I'll have to take a closer look at that article. From what I've read, it sounds like earthships are more [[appropriate]] to arid climates (where they were developed) than the cool-temperate climates that many people have built them in (Eastern N. America and Europe). --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 17:45, 25 February 2017 (PST)
:Absolutely. One of the major focuses of Appropedia is to document the deployments of various techniques/technologies. Can we replicate the same results in different contexts? This is something I'd also like to see more of in the permaculture community also. I'll have to take a closer look at that article. From what I've read, it sounds like earthships are more [[appropriate]] to arid climates (where they were developed) than the cool-temperate climates that many people have built them in (Eastern N. America and Europe). --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 17:45, 25 February 2017 (PST)
:Lots of good points worth considering in that article. Supposedly one-size-fits-all solutions are almost always bound to fail somewhere. The article notes several sites where climatic differences seem to have not been taken into consideration. Another point that I'd wondered about with earthships as well as other material reuse is off-gassing. The article mentions the problem of off-gassing tires has happened at least once. I haven't heard the criticism of off-grid design before: "Off-grid homes require large battery systems, and these batteries need to be replaced every six or eight years; that’s why off-grid electricity is almost always more expensive than grid-supplied electricity." Definitely worth investigating. --[[User:Ethan|Ethan]] ([[User talk:Ethan|talk]]) 18:43, 25 February 2017 (PST)

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It is silly and wasteful not to just copy this kind of article from WP. Just put a note at the bottom saying that it was copied from WP on whatever date. Both sites use compatible copylefts. WP gets much more contributions, but everything there is always subject to partial or total deletion. Duplication is better than loss!-69.87.204.190 20:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Duplication can be good as a starting point, and I agree we should do more of it - adapting the articles to the focus here. But Appropedia is different from Wikipedia, and many of the contributions here would not be accepted there, because they want a more limited type of content. --Chriswaterguy 00:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have just done this with some pages, including adapting Wikipedia:Bedbug to make Bedbugs and Control and treatment of bedbugs. It's a lot of work to do it well, but it's yields good pages that invite more contributions.
See User:Chriswaterguy/Wikipedia pages to adapt for pages to adapt in future. It will only be practical on a large scale if we have a team of people doing it. --Chriswaterguy 19:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merge?

I'd like for either Earthship and Earthships to be merged or for the latter to be retitled. I left a message on the talk page of User:Cuddles, creator of Earthships, to see which course of action they would prefer. --Ethan (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2015 (PST)

Yes agree. Moribund (talk) 16:57, 17 February 2017 (PST)
I decided to move that article to Original:Earthships to leave it in its original form, but we can easily merge in info where needed. The greater challenge I see with this article is that it's a copy-and-paste from the article on Wikipedia, from over eight years ago. If you'd like I can make a cleaned-up copy of the current Wikipedia article that can be merged in. I already made a separate article from one section of the Wikipedia article. --Ethan (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2017 (PST)
Is there need to have a separate original, as that version would be available via the "view history" function? Moribund (talk) 09:54, 24 February 2017 (PST)
With student work from classes taught by admins, it usually gets incorporated into articles that way. "Released into the wild" so to speak. But this one appears to be from a student from another university. Either way is probably fine. --Ethan (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2017 (PST)

Earthships hype vs earthship reality

It would be good to provide more content on criticisms / failings of earthships and the for profit organisation earthship biotecture. Many times online I have read people saying that earthships do not perform as promised. The best summary of the arguments and criticisms against can be found on this page titled "Earthship Hype and Earthship Reality" [1]. Moribund (talk) 11:56, 25 February 2017 (PST)

Absolutely. One of the major focuses of Appropedia is to document the deployments of various techniques/technologies. Can we replicate the same results in different contexts? This is something I'd also like to see more of in the permaculture community also. I'll have to take a closer look at that article. From what I've read, it sounds like earthships are more appropriate to arid climates (where they were developed) than the cool-temperate climates that many people have built them in (Eastern N. America and Europe). --Ethan (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2017 (PST)
Lots of good points worth considering in that article. Supposedly one-size-fits-all solutions are almost always bound to fail somewhere. The article notes several sites where climatic differences seem to have not been taken into consideration. Another point that I'd wondered about with earthships as well as other material reuse is off-gassing. The article mentions the problem of off-gassing tires has happened at least once. I haven't heard the criticism of off-grid design before: "Off-grid homes require large battery systems, and these batteries need to be replaced every six or eight years; that’s why off-grid electricity is almost always more expensive than grid-supplied electricity." Definitely worth investigating. --Ethan (talk) 18:43, 25 February 2017 (PST)
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