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:You're right - it's currently a mess. This is because few changes have been made to these articles since the merger with WikiGreen. I agree that most or all of the top level articles should be moved to subcats. Perhaps some (such as biogas ones) shouldn't be in agriculture at all. | :You're right - it's currently a mess. This is because few changes have been made to these articles since the merger with WikiGreen. I agree that most or all of the top level articles should be moved to subcats. Perhaps some (such as biogas ones) shouldn't be in agriculture at all. | ||
:As there's so much categorization to do, I've been hoping that we could get some kind of bot to help (e.g. search for a certain phrase, and prompt to add to the relevant category). Doing it manually will take a lot of time that would be better spent on other things, like creating content. Perhaps our technically minded admins (Curt, Lonny, Gabe) can let us know if there's any progress on the bots? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] | :As there's so much categorization to do, I've been hoping that we could get some kind of bot to help (e.g. search for a certain phrase, and prompt to add to the relevant category). Doing it manually will take a lot of time that would be better spent on other things, like creating content. Perhaps our technically minded admins (Curt, Lonny, Gabe) can let us know if there's any progress on the bots? --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] · <small>[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]</small> 22:59, 31 January 2007 (PST) | ||
::My two cents is that categorization is not the best tool for navigation in a top-down sense, if navigation means arriving at the home page and you want to find an article. (I think it's good for navigating from an article to a related category of articles, then back to the articles.) I've seen a few wikis (like Howtopedia and WikiGreen) that approached navigation differently and it worked well. I hope we can do something similar. Of course, categorization does help somewhat for nav, but I think it's more useful for maintenance and site management. Another way to think of it is that categorization is really essential for site management, and trying to optimize categorization both for site management (which is important) and for nav (also important) is difficult. I haven't fully figured it out, of course, but trying. | ::My two cents is that categorization is not the best tool for navigation in a top-down sense, if navigation means arriving at the home page and you want to find an article. (I think it's good for navigating from an article to a related category of articles, then back to the articles.) I've seen a few wikis (like Howtopedia and WikiGreen) that approached navigation differently and it worked well. I hope we can do something similar. Of course, categorization does help somewhat for nav, but I think it's more useful for maintenance and site management. Another way to think of it is that categorization is really essential for site management, and trying to optimize categorization both for site management (which is important) and for nav (also important) is difficult. I haven't fully figured it out, of course, but trying. | ||
::By the way, there has been a push (as Chris said) to make a lot of progress in categorization since the merger. See [[User:Curtbeckmann/Topic table]] where some prep work is underway. Will probably begin rolling out Water in the next few days..., then [[Food and drink]] after that, which is where Agriculture is going to live. --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 06:01, 1 February 2007 (PST) | ::By the way, there has been a push (as Chris said) to make a lot of progress in categorization since the merger. See [[User:Curtbeckmann/Topic table]] where some prep work is underway. Will probably begin rolling out Water in the next few days..., then [[Food and drink]] after that, which is where Agriculture is going to live. --[[User:Curtbeckmann|CurtB]] 06:01, 1 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:::Cheers, for the link Curtbeckmann. Didn't quite realise the plan, or the historical reason for the current categorisation state. Using bots for a bit of smart categorisation sound a sensible (and an extremely cool) way to do it | :::Cheers, for the link Curtbeckmann. Didn't quite realise the plan, or the historical reason for the current categorisation state. Using bots for a bit of smart categorisation sound a sensible (and an extremely cool) way to do it | ||
-- [[User:Cgfoz|Cgfoz]] 16:00, 1 February 2007 (PST) | -- [[User:Cgfoz|Cgfoz]] 16:00, 1 February 2007 (PST) | ||