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Bienvenue - Willkommen - Bienvenidos - Dobrodošli - Welcome - Добро пожаловать - 歡迎 Thank you for visiting,Geofferybard, your insights will be much appreciated. Please remain w:mindful of our common goals of sharing the benefits of collaborative media and advancing intelligence for the benefit of w:all sentient beings... If you have an issue with which we are not yet harmonized, please bear in mind the following point based upon w:Getting to Yes:

       Separate the people from the problem
       Focus on Interests, Not Positions
       Invent Options for Mutual Gain
       Use Objective criteria.

Water topics[edit]

Hi Geof - thanks for your contributions, and good to have you here. I'm a water engineer myself, so I'm especially glad to see your contributions.

You've probably figured out that we have different criteria than Wikipedia, so the "WP:OR" issue doesn't apply here - Appropedia encourages research, analysis and ideas, though with A:Rigor. So it would be a great thing to expand Water resource policy and Vulnerability index in ways that aren't permitted on Wikipedia.

I also replied to you at Portal talk:Water.

You obviously know your way around a wiki, but I'll give you our standard greeting in any case. Hope to see you here again! --Chriswaterguy 21:31, 1 July 2011 (PDT)


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Hi GeoBard,

Welcome to the Appropedia wiki. Please make yourself at home! If you need a general wiki-tutorial, see the main help page (or the more in-depth one on WikiEducator).

Check your preferences and be sure you verify your email address and turn on email notification if you'd like it -- you can find out when your talk page, or any page on your watchlist, is modified. You may want to upload a photo or information about yourself to your userpage (which is at User:GeoBard).

If you have a particular interest or project in mind, go ahead and start it! If you have questions or suggestions, the best place to leave them is at our community discussion page, which we call the Village pump - you should get a fast response. Or, feel free to leave me a note on my talk page if you have further questions, need help finding your way around, have a cool idea for a project, or just want to chat.

Glad to have you here!

-Chriswaterguy

Climate change impact scenarios[edit]

Re your user page: "Quantification and verification of climate change impact scenarios for sensitivity analysis to assist decision trees pertaining to the above" - I'll be really interested to see this. I'm working on getting more college & university students editing here, and I think this will be a really interesting area to promote. --Chriswaterguy 21:49, 2 July 2011 (PDT)

I might be able to find secondary sources I am no expert. I will trim the fluff from WRP article however.GeoBard 16:19, 3 July 2011 (PDT)

Request for comment- Water resource policy[edit]

I narrowed Water resource policy and wonder what is the process to get comment feedback evaluation? Also, would something about organizational process analysis be appropriate for adding to the topics list on water or should we stick with listing organization names at the water mainpage/portal? I am also wondering if the Global Water Partnership import was policy compliant, as far as it has gone? Do we need some templates such as dewikify?GeoBard 17:05, 3 July 2011 (PDT)

Hi GeoBard - for comment, I'd ask at the Village Pump. I'll have a closer look too.
Re "organizational process analysis" - We're happy to be very broad, so if it relates to water resources or management in any way, it fits. It would be great to have more content about organizational processes.
Re "Global Water Partnership import" - I think that's fine, but where an article is closely based on a Wikipedia article, an {{attrib wikipedia}} tag may be needed. Your own work on Wikipedia that you share here doesn't need that, as you still have full rights over the content, so you can share it again here without any special notice. But if there is work by other people in the imported article, making up more than a couple of sentences, either the page needs the {{attrib wikipedia}} template, or those parts in particular should be rewritten.
Re dewikifying - a page adapted here from Wikipedia needs to have certain templates and links removed, but I think {{cleanup}} can handle that, where needed. (Cleanup can display a comment, too - e.g. {{cleanup|Wikipedia templates need to be removed.}}.
If the link is to a topic that would be suitable for Appropedia, it's ok to leave the link in - e.g.

integrated water resource management (IWRM). If it's a topic where we're never likely to have an article, e.g. "HRH The Prince of Orange Willem-Alexander," then it can be delinked... but if it's something where it would be useful to link the Wikipedia article, that can be done with {{w}}, like this: HRH The Prince of Orange Willem-AlexanderW (using the markup: HRH The Prince of Orange Willem-Alexander{{w|HRH The Prince of Orange Willem-Alexander}}).

Have I made sense? Let me know if anything's unclear - thanks. --Chriswaterguy 10:17, 4 July 2011 (PDT)
Completely. But was William of Orange green, despite the red blood on his hands? That is the question.GeoBard 14:19, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
Did you see how I imported the attrib history in Discussion?GeoBard 14:20, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
If we get into William of Orange, we're getting into some very interesting but very sad history... not to mention history that raises extremely strong opinions, especially in Northern Ireland. So I won't go there :-).
Ah yes, I see the history. Hmm - I think it still needs to have an attribution notice, if appropriate, on the pages itself. For details, people can always check the Wikipedia page's history.
On behalf of the community, thanks for all your contributions! --Chriswaterguy 10:21, 14 July 2011 (PDT)
Oh that's fine with me but actually I did as I recall write the article myself from googled secondary sources. I will check and see if maybe I transfered some sections from other wp articles but i don't think I did. I like to write my own gloss on most topics.Geo BardRap 16:17, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

Attributing Wikipedia[edit]

Hi GeoBard - I changed the notice on Amory Lovins to {{attrib wikipedia|Amory Lovins}}, at the bottom. That automatically includes a link to the history on the Wikipedia source page, so I removed the history from the talk page here to keep that clear for comments. That's how we normally do it - always open to change, but it seems to work well.

I'm impressed with Amory Lovins work, though I admit I only know a little. Thanks! --Chriswaterguy 06:53, 26 July 2011 (PDT)

I also pruned the article, trying to focus on the main points that are relevant to Appropedia. We have a bit of a different focus from Wikipedia, of course (and we don't want Google to mark us down for having too much copied stuff). This isn't a clear policy here yet, and of course the page can be expanded again, maybe in different ways, or adding something about key ideas if some are missing.
Anyway, don't let this worry you - appreciate your edits (and the prompting to learn about Amory Lovins!) --Chriswaterguy 11:40, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
No problem. I wanted to link to info on Amory Lovins on a newspaper blog and rather than promote WP was hoping to direct good environmentalist traffic here.Geo BardRap 16:12, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
Fantastic, thanks! --Chriswaterguy 00:07, 29 July 2011 (PDT)