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Draught animals[edit]

Man has used draught animal power for 5,000 years ish. It has no massive ecological disadvantages that I am aware of. Draught animals coupled to 21st century vehicles, (you don't use 1850 technology in your car or bike, why should a horse be restricted to antique technology) are an efficient system, but appear to be completely beyond the pale.

I have started a topic at http://www.appropedia.org/Draught_Animal_Power but |I have no real idea how this Wiki works so I need to know if the subject is banned, has been discussed and found irrelevant, or is of interest. Saddlechariot

Thanks, Saddlechariot. The subject definitely isn't banned, and hasn't been discussed much. I'm curious about how efficient it is, and how the efficiency is measured. Also curious about the 21st C vehicles for use with draught animals.
Animals have their own form of pollution - when the car was introduced in New York, it was welcomed for the decrease in horse droppings in the streets. But of course, the cars brought more dangerous impacts in the long run.
I guess by referring to "draught" animals you're not talking about horses for everyday transport (getting to work or to the shops - a bicycle would, be more efficient, I assume?) but rather for hauling loads? --Chriswaterguy 15:03, 21 October 2011 (PDT)

The link http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/user_upload/ags/publications/draugth_ap_overview.pdf explains pretty much where I am coming from. The problem is perception as in the health risk from horse droppings, considered to be the sole cause of house flies. Funnily enough an idea promoted by the petrol companies. But since horses have left New York there has been no disease. Also a horse craps every four hours. Picking up two or three droppings in the working day is not impossible. Lead tetra ethyl was of course an improvement. I never mentioned riding. Yes a bicycle is more effective. When you look at internal combustion efficiency, do you look at a Rolls Royce and chauffeur collecting the caviar from Fortnums as a measure of efficiency. Try reading the UN FAO document, and then look at what I say. Saddlechariot